Re: Experience with Advanced TDD courses delivered on-site?
"Steve Smith [email protected] [testdrivendevelopment]" <[email protected]> Tue, 9 Dec 2014 15:36:08 -0500
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My employer, Falafel Software, also does quite a bit with testing and training. We have experts in unit testing and writing testable code, as well as instructors familiar with UI tests using a variety of free and commercial tools for this purpose. I'd love to come onsite to help, but my wife is expecting twins in late February so I expect she won't be quite ready for me to travel in April (though I would be available via webinar). Feel free to reach out if you're interested, though it sounds like there's certainly a wealth of qualified instructors on this thread already: [email protected] Cheers and good luck, Steve On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Mark Waite [email protected] [testdrivendevelopment] <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Ron, our intent is to teach 4 sessions of 15 people each. At least that's > how we envision it working so that the sessions can be code intensive > instead of lecture intensive. > > Is there an outline of the CSD courses which you and Chet teach so that I > could look at them to see if they might address (or be customized) to the > test driven development challenges we're seeing? > > Some of the challenges we've seen have been > > - Database interactions - how to handle database schema version > history, database volumes, and database operations > - Multi-component interaction tests (techniques to rapidly restore > stateful components, etc.) > - User interface driven tests (when to use them, when to avoid them, > techniques for managing their brittleness) > - Performance or throughput related tests > > Mark Waite > > On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 3:56 AM, Ron Jeffries [email protected] > [testdrivendevelopment] <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> Hi Mark, just a thought ... >> >> I would think that a TDD course would be about programming. Certainly >> mine would, with developers working in pairs. >> >> I’d be reviewing the team’s code after frequent iterations, answering >> questions, and so on. I don’t see how I could possibly provide value to 60 >> people at once. >> >> Generally Chet and I limit our CSD courses to 24. >> >> >> On Dec 8, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Mark Waite [email protected] >> [testdrivendevelopment] <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> As part of that improvement effort, we'd like to have a 2-3 day on-site >> Advanced Test Driven Development course in April 2015 for about 60 people. >> >> >> >> Ron Jeffries >> www.XProgramming.com >> You never know what is enough unless you know what is more than enough. >> -- William Blake >> >> > > > -- > Thanks! > Mark Waite > > > -- Steve Smith http://Ardalis.com/ http://twitter.com/ardalis