Re: [testdrivendevelopment] We are back on the air!

"Roy Osherove" <[email protected]> Mon, 25 Nov 2019 11:11:20 +0200
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Yup!

On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:05 AM Avi Kessner <[email protected]> wrote:

> Is this the diagram you wanted to share?
>
>
> https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-of-the-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing
>
> I would recommend making a box which is part of the flow rather than some
> external dotted lines. For example, maybe the box should read, " Apply
> SOLID principles" as part of the refactoring, and then before the next
> failing test have something like, "design the contract"
>
> I think the community needs more explicit direction on the design being
> done in those phases.
>
> On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 16:44 J. B. Rainsberger <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM Roy Osherove <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Awesome.  I sent a new thread to the group about tdd diagrams.  Was it
>>> received?
>>>
>>
>> Maybe.
>>
>> If you sent it to the Yahoo! group, then no.
>>
>> Please try again--at least until we figure out the transition. :) I want
>> to see it!
>> --
>> J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: https://tdd.training :: http://www.jbrains.ca
>> :: http://www.thecodewhisperer.com
>>
>> 
>
>

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Thanks,

Roy Osherove

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Yup!</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Nov 14, 2019 at 6:05 AM Avi Kessner &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div>=
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Is this=
 the diagram you wanted to share?<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><a href=3D"https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-of-t=
he-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing" target=
=
=3D"_blank">https://osherove.com/blog/2019/11/12/an-updated-diagram-of-the=
-tdd-process-from-the-upcoming-3rd-edition-of-art-of-unit-testing</a><br></=
div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">I would recommend making =
a box which is part of the flow rather than some external dotted lines. For=
 example, maybe the box should read, &quot; Apply SOLID principles&quot; as=
 part of the refactoring, and then before the next failing test have someth=
ing like, &quot;design the contract&quot;</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">I think the community needs more explicit direction on th=
e design being done in those phases.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Nov 13, 2019, 16:44 J. B.=
 Rainsberger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quo=
te" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204=
);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D=
"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 11:27 AM Roy Osherove &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div>=C2=A0</div><blockquote class=
=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid r=
gb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div dir=3D"auto">Awesome.=C2=A0 I s=
ent a new thread to the group about tdd diagrams.=C2=A0 Was it received?</d=
iv></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Maybe.</div><div><br></div><div>I=
f you sent it to the Yahoo! group, then no.</div><div><br></div><div>Please=
 try again--at least until we figure out the transition. :) I want to see i=
t!</div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>J. B. (Joe) Rai=
nsberger :: <a href=3D"https://tdd.training" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_=
blank">https://tdd.training</a> :: <span><a href=3D"http://www.jbrains.ca" =
rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.jbrains.ca</a> :: <a href=
=3D"http://www.thecodewhisperer.com" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">=
http://www.thecodewhisperer.com</a></span></div><div><br></div></div></div>=
</div>



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div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D=
"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks,<br><br>Roy Oshero=
ve<br><br><div><div><a href=3D"http://osherove.com" target=3D"_blank">http:=
//osherove.com</a></div><div><a href=3D"http://elasticleadership.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">http://elasticleadership.com</a><br><br><br></div></div></div>=
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