RE: [TFUI] Re: User Stories and the UI

Phlip wrote:

> We don't need to test that the Submit button itself is
> clickable. Refactoring won't easily change that. That logic
> is in the "GUI Toolkit" - we want to test only our own "GUI Layer".

Agreed, of course.

> Next, while programming a GUI we often want to look at
> its intermediate state. So I have a commented-out line
> that would have called 'Show' in Modal mode. It's
> Modal so we block all the other tests until we are
> finished looking at the window.

Ah, yes, that's what I wanted to know - thanks!

> If we see anything wrong we must decide to write a
> test, or to just fix it. If it's simple, such as two
> fields overlapping, just go to Design Mode and drag
> the fields apart. But if you don't know >why< the
> fields are overlapping, a test will help investigate.

Again, agreed.

>> That's interesting - can you elaborate on what your reusable test
>> functions typically test?
>
> [...]
> 
> Suppose the above test case wanted to send a low-level
> message, for "strict user simulation". If it used
> SendMessage(something, BM_CLICK, 0, 0). Statements to send a
> low-level message thru VB would be very hairy. So we should
> put them inside a common method, to be re-used whenever we
> needed a strict user simulation of a button click event.

Ah, ok - things that will result in something like JfcUnit... :)

I was hoping you also had reusable code for things like "a layout should
never be built this way" or something - that would have been quite
interesting. I guess the answer is no, you don't... :)

Cheers, Ilja



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