Re: [TFUI] Strict User Simulations

Timothy Wall wrote:

> There's a peculiar situation on w32 (and more
> explicitly available on 
> X11 systems) that lets you run these kinds of tests
> without bothering 
> your local display. 

Noted, but for my philosophy section I just switch to
AmigaOS for the examples. There, you just create a
background hardware screen, and render any dancing
windows you like into it.

(Covering every Principle for every popular GUI
Toolkit would provide 90% boring reading for all users
of other Toolkits...)

> That assumes your concern is with interfering with
> the "active" display.

The concern is that during a test run the editor
remain available, active, and un-blocked, even when
most of the time the tests should be fast enough that
any inspiration you have could wait until the run
ends.

> Then perhaps the test should include a check for the
> button being 
> enabled?  Sometimes it's easier to drive the GUI
> when the UI components 
> have a lot of interacting properties, and you wind
> up with less hard 
> linkage between the test and explicit/implicit
> behaviors of the 
> component w/r/t its property settings.

The growth stages:

 - the test calls .push() when the user
    can't and nobody cares; the case is
    not detailed enough

 - the test queries if the button is
    enabled before .push()ing it

 - the test calls a local method which
    queries if the button is
    enabled before .push()ing it

 - the test calls a complete GUI test
    rig framework, which encapsulates
    these effects for all aspects
    of all controls

If your GUI toolkit is not blessed by a complete suite
of Jemmy Operators, maintained by someone else, you
can still migrate thru those stages while being
productive.

New question: I heard a rumor Jemmy is unsupported. Is
this because it's finished, or what?


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Phlip
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