RE: [TFUI] Humble Dialog Versus Microsoft UIB

>>It could be that UIP works for WinForm applications, but I can testify 
>>it doesn't on WebForm.

And from your other message

>>I don't know if they grok MVC or Humble Dialog, but they certainly don't
>>grok ASP.NET. If they do, they don't respect the architecture. We can have
>>our opinions on how good or bad that architecture is, but going against an
>>architecture was never a good idea. And that's what UIP does.


Hi Thomas,

Can you be a bit more specific on how/why it doesn't work and how it goes
against the architecture?

I am interested because I am getting close to the end of an ASP.NET project
using UIB almost exclusively.  Now my case is a bit special - I am a team of
one developer, it's my first ASP.NET project, I don't come from a trad ASP
background, I'm not doing Test First.

I made it work for me.  Yeah - there are things I don’t like, I did find
some headaches, and I think the documentation is both huge *and* largely
useless.  But it has provided a *lot* of infrastructure that I didn't have.

My project is not huge - a single .net solution - 50 (ish) aspx files, 3
other assemblies and a couple of other projects for converting/loading
legacy data. SQL Server database 25 tables.

I'm really interested in your experience.  I can take it if I have made the
wrong technology choice, but I would like to know!

Best wishes,

Richard

-----Original Message-----
From: Thomas Eyde [mailto:teyde-f/[email protected]] 
Sent: 01 February 2005 01:54
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TFUI] Humble Dialog Versus Microsoft UIB


I can't see that UIP is included in EntLib. The UIP versions 1 and 2 
will give you a lot of headaches and frustrations. Some people on the 
gotdotnet workspace claims success, but none can provide best practices 
or sample code.

UIP is designed to work on both WinForm and WebForm without code change, 
and, IMO, it's here where the design flawed. WebForm and WinForm are two 
different architectures which only appear to be equal.

It could be that UIP works for WinForm applications, but I can testify 
it doesn't on WebForm.

--
Thomas

Timothy Wall wrote:

>Hear, hear.  I looked at a few summaries and got the impression someone  
>has spent entirely too much time locked in a room smelling their own  
>fumes.
>
>This isn't String Theory, so could someone please state what UIP  
>provides in plain and simple terms?
>  
>
>  
>


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