Re: [TFUI] comments on my first chapter

I havent read any of your chapters or anything so I probably shouldn't be
commenting at all so I don't come off sounding silly myself..

But is he perhaps referring to some more traditional thinking on testing and
its relation to what you are writing? Maybe he would like you to relate your
writing to existing literature on testing, even if only to say it's not like
that.. ? To make it clearer for someone not so familiar with TDD/TF but
familiar with more traditional testing. Some theoretical context or
whatever. Like I said I haven't read it so maybe you already said it all. Is
this available someplace?

Cheers,

2006/4/19, Phlip <[email protected]>:
>
> TFUIers:
>
> A reputable (and opinionated) test engineer and QA consultant provided
> this review of as much as he could stand of /TFUI/
>
> <netiquette mode="suspended" attrocity="public quote of private e-mail">
>
>    I couldn't find a description of what testing means to you, so I'm
> having
>    trouble sorting out some fundamental philosophical basis for what
> you're
>    writing.
>
>    I was also unable to find anything or anyone that I would consider a
>    reference to previously existing thought about testing.  Was this
>    intentional?  Is there a line of thinking about testing that you're
>    following (or challenging, or ignoring)?
>
>    I'm also having some difficulty following the line of reasoning; it
> seems
>    to me disjointed.  That may be a reader issue, rather than a writer
> issue.
>
> </netiquette>
>
> Okay, guys, is this him or me?
>
> (Or maybe has he read too many of my online posts?)
>
> The answer, in the tiniest nutshell possible, is:
>
> "The root problem is you must think of a test case that can force a
> new graphical situation, without writing the graphical situation
> itself first, AND without viewing the GUI to see if the situation
> works. Your new test should tell you it works. Think of easy GUIs,
> like data entry, and then think of hard GUIs, like rotating fractals,
> or heat maps."
>
> I say that in the first chapter like so many times, in various
> different ways, using both our brainwashed jargon and common industry
> jargon.
>
> About "reference to previously existing thought about testing", I list
> /Test Driven Development/ on Page 2... Sheesh...
>
> --
>   Phlip
>   http://www.greencheese.org/ZeekLand  <-- NOT a blog!!
>
>


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