[TFUI] Re: [TDD] TDD:ing MFC
"Phlip" <[email protected]> Fri, 15 Jun 2007 05:02:58 -0700
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Donaldson, John (GEO) wrote:
> not specific to MFC, but still worth bearing in mind if you haven't
> already is make the presentation layer as thin as possible. Apply the
> "Humble Dialog" principle. That way you can disentangle yourself from the
> gory details of MFC quickly.
Modulo the legacy implications.
Tip: Find the lowest-level functions you can, maybe things as simple as a
glorified strcat(), and write unit tests on them.
Put the unit tests into a suite, and link this from both your main app,
using
the /in vivo/ test technique, _and_ into a console-only test program.
Now slowly but relentlessly put as many lines of code under the command of
tests in the console-ready suites, so eventually the console-only test
program does the most work.
--
Phlip
http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/
"Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)"
assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax
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<p>Donaldson, John (GEO) wrote:<br>
<br>
> not specific to MFC, but still worth bearing in mind if you haven't<br>
> already is make the presentation layer as thin as possible. Apply the<br>
> "Humble Dialog" principle. That way you can disentangle yourself from the<br>
> gory details of MFC quickly.<br>
<br>
Modulo the legacy implications.<br>
<br>
Tip: Find the lowest-level functions you can, maybe things as simple as a<br>
glorified strcat(), and write unit tests on them.<br>
<br>
Put the unit tests into a suite, and link this from both your main app, <br>
using<br>
the /in vivo/ test technique, _and_ into a console-only test program.<br>
<br>
Now slowly but relentlessly put as many lines of code under the command of<br>
tests in the console-ready suites, so eventually the console-only test<br>
program does the most work.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Phlip<br>
<a href="http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/9780596510657/">http://www.oreilly.<wbr>com/catalog/<wbr>9780596510657/</a><br>
"Test Driven Ajax (on Rails)"<br>
assert_xpath, assert_javascript, & assert_ajax<br>
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