Re: [TFUI] What to automate - simple tests or complex tests

"Rob Park" <[email protected]> Tue, 27 May 2008 08:09:46 -0600
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I think neither, but perhaps focus on problem forms (?) first.

Actually, I would focus on new stories first, then problem forms second.

I would work new stories "presenter-first" and get my TDD working from the
start.
For problem forms, I would get my unit tests in order including refactoring
to MVP if required.

Lastly, I would get my acceptance/story tests running in the same area...
plugging in at the presenter.

.rob.

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Stephan Meyn <smeyn-jG/[email protected]> wrote:

>   Just a question to the group - if you are looking to start automating
> testing, you may not have the opportunity to invest in automating all
> you would like to test. So you look what kind of tests you'd want to
> invest in to optimize the benefits vs effort.
>
> So would you rather automate
> 1) simple tests, such as testing all the navigation works, or
> 2) complex test cases, such as processing a withdrawal of a payment
> from a superannuation account
>
> 1) would give you the ability to create a large number of small test
> cases, which could then be run after a build as a smoke test. Catches
> errors before the test team gets involved
>
> 2) automates stuff that are error prone to do manually. But it
> requires more effort to build and so you would create less tests with
> the same budget.
>
> given the two choices, which way would you go?
>
> Stephan
>
> 
>


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            <p>I think neither, but perhaps focus on problem forms (?) first.<br>
<br>
Actually, I would focus on new stories first, then problem forms second.<br>
<br>
I would work new stories &quot;presenter-first&quot; and get my TDD working from the<br>
start.<br>
For problem forms, I would get my unit tests in order including refactoring<br>
to MVP if required.<br>
<br>
Lastly, I would get my acceptance/story tests running in the same area...<br>
plugging in at the presenter.<br>
<br>
.rob.<br>
<br>
On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 11:37 PM, Stephan Meyn &lt;<a href="mailto:smeyn%40bigfoot.com">smeyn@bigfoot.<wbr>com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt;   Just a question to the group - if you are looking to start automating<br>
&gt; testing, you may not have the opportunity to invest in automating all<br>
&gt; you would like to test. So you look what kind of tests you'd want to<br>
&gt; invest in to optimize the benefits vs effort.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; So would you rather automate<br>
&gt; 1) simple tests, such as testing all the navigation works, or<br>
&gt; 2) complex test cases, such as processing a withdrawal of a payment<br>
&gt; from a superannuation account<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 1) would give you the ability to create a large number of small test<br>
&gt; cases, which could then be run after a build as a smoke test. Catches<br>
&gt; errors before the test team gets involved<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; 2) automates stuff that are error prone to do manually. But it<br>
&gt; requires more effort to build and so you would create less tests with<br>
&gt; the same budget.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; given the two choices, which way would you go?<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Stephan<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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