Re: anygui status query, other thoughts

Magnus Lie Hetland <[email protected]> Sun, 15 Feb 2004 23:17:20 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.python.anygui.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Stan <[email protected]>:
>
> 
> Hi Magnus,
> 

Hi! I'm cc'ing this to the python-devel list; I hope you don't mind.

> I'm casting about for the best UI option for Python (for open source
> academic proof-of-concept projects), and am having a rather
> difficult time figuring out where to allocate my limited time.

That I can understand.

> I am quite familiar with Swing, and have played around with Jython,
> but I remain worried that Jython - although it's a great tool - may
> be experiencing a slow death from lack of committed developers.
> Will it incorporate Python 2.3 features and make use of SDK 1.5
> improvements?

I don't know anything about the development status of Jython.

Samuele: Are you here? Perhaps you know something?

> It seems like Finn Bock is the only active developer, and that is
> depressing considering the effort that went into the project, and
> its usefulness.

I guess that is something that will happen to many open source
projects. (Anygui was just criticized for the same thing on
comp.lang.python.)

> Perhaps it is simply too complex for most people to participate in,
> and everyone (such as myself) is waiting on the sidelines.

I don't know.

> Is Anygui still in active development?

Not very actively right now -- but I still think (perhaps naïvely?)
that there may be a new release, incorporating all the drastic changes
in CVS.

I see one main need to make this possible: It must be possible to work
on the code base alone (either for me or others) and to release in
small increments.

Currently we've made a *big* change to the entire architecture, and
testing all the back-ends is a bit cumbersome (and really requires you
to have several operating systems installed, or to have more than one
developer available).

> The commit list dates are somewhat old.

Yes, indeed.

> Finally, I wonder what you think of the following idea.  Is there
> value in replacing the popular approach of SWIG-type linking of the
> Python UI layer to the underlying C/C++ UI libraries, with a
> client-server model?

Not sure, really. Could be an interesting concept to try out.

> It would be interesting if one could define a modern UI protocol,
> something like X for the new millennium with the benefit of design
> pattern and XML-RPC experience of recent years, and then have the
> various UI rendering systems implement such servers.
> 
> What are your thoughts?

I think it's quite interesting.

> Thanks,
> 
> Stan

-- 
Magnus Lie Hetland           "The mind is not a vessel to be filled,
http://hetland.org            but a fire to be lighted."  [Plutarch]


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