Re: use of setuptools in SetupTools.py

On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 04:23:33PM -0700, Tavis Rudd wrote:
> I have several projects using Cheetah where I have setuptools installed  
> but don't wish to install via setuptools for various reasons.

Fine by me, committed with 56f550b.

	CHEETAH_INSTALL_WITHOUT_SETUPTOOLS=1 python setup.py install


>
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, R. Tyler Ballance wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jun 09, 2009 at 01:42:01PM -0700, Tavis Rudd wrote:
>>> Tyler,
>>> I'd like to maintain some way to turn off the use of setup tools, other
>>> than removing it from the PYTHONPATH.  Perhaps an env var
>>> 'CHEETAH_INSTALL_WITHOUT_SETUPTOOLS'?
>>
>> I'm fine with this, but what scenarios are you alluding to with regards
>> to not using setuptools despite it's presence?
>>
>>
>>> Tavis
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009, R. Tyler Ballance wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jun 05, 2009 at 02:04:53PM -0400, Mike Bonnet wrote:
>>>>> I was curious about this comment in SetupTools.py
>>>>>
>>>>> if 'CHEETAH_USE_SETUPTOOLS' in os.environ:
>>>>>     # @@TR: Please note that this is for testing purposes only!  PEAK setuptools
>>>>>     # is not required or recommended for installing Cheetah.  Downstream
>>>>>     # package managers (linux distros, etc.) should *not* enable this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Several python frameworks (TurboGears for one) that use Cheetah require the egg-info metadata that setuptools generates, so we define CHEETAH_USE_SETUPTOOLS in the Fedora package for Cheetah.  I just wanted to verify that this is a supported installation method, and that future upgrades aren't likely to break it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> In the next branch, what will become v2.2.2 I went ahead and removed
>>>> that cnoditional and have the try/except defaulted such that setup.py
>>>> will use setuptools if available, otherwise fall back to distutil (see:
>>>> b9bfe53).
>>>>
>>>> The maintainer of the Debian Cheetah package also mentioned some bits to
>>>> me about setuptools off-list so I think it's safe to say that most Linux
>>>> package maintainers are fine with setuptools these days :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> --
>>>> -R. Tyler Ballance
>>>> Slide, Inc.
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> -R. Tyler Ballance
>> Slide, Inc.
>>

-- 
-R. Tyler Ballance
Slide, Inc.

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