Re: Concerning Python3 support

Hi Robert,

Good luck with the refactoring.  I am a Python beginner and creating my 
first web-app using 3.1 and CherryPy3.2.  In the absence of a 
Python3-compatible 'proper' templating package I am using scripts to 
generate HTML code, but I would rather use templates.  If Cheetah can be 
the first of the 'serious' template packages to be Python3 compatible I 
think that would be good kudos and hopefully get some converts from 
other packages still stuck in 2.x. 

Looking forward to the release candidate.  Keep up the good work.


Alan Harris-Reid

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Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 23:02:07 -0800
From: "R. Tyler Ballance" <[email protected]>
Subject: [Cheetahtemplate-discuss] Concerning Python3 support
To: [email protected]
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Since 2.4.1 is now released, I've been spending my allocated Cheetah-time
looking at what will be required to support Cheetah on Python3. While I
personally am not using Python3 for anything other than to develop modules for
Python3, I feel this is an important goal to acheive for Cheetah as a project.

Currently, Cheetah is rife with _ancient_ code, some of it relying on modules
that were deprecated with Python 2.4 or later, additionally there are sections
of the codebase that are non-obvious in functionality and/or hackish.
Supporting Python3 offers us a few notable things:

   * In order to support Python3, a lot of code needs to be refactored, meaning
     there is the opportunity to use newer Python features such as generators,
     yielding, etc; Theoretically Cheetah 2.4.xx will benefit from these
     improvements in the form of faster runtime and/or lower memory footprint
   * Publicity; being one of the first (if not *the* first) major templating
     engines to support Python3 will hopefully garner the Cheetah project some
     publicity and help bring more users and contributors into the mix
   * Longevity; with the moratorium on language changes in effect, supporting
     Python2 (Cheetah 2.4.xx) and Python 3 (Cheetah 3.0.xx), Cheetah will
     be able to run on every potential incarnation of Python available to
     end-users

Right now, the diff for the refactoring changes being made in the "next" branch
is pretty huge: http://gist.github.com/268365

There are still some major show stoppers I've got to fix in order to get
templates to *execute* under Python3 but progress is being made (generating
templates (static/dynamic) works, but executing the code does not).

I don't really have an objective or a requirement for testers just yet, I just 
wanted to update the community at large as to the happenings. I'm hoping within
another couple weeks I'll have a release candidate ready for testing on
Python3.

Consider yourselves in the loop  :)

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