Re: [Release] Python 3.11.0b4 is still blocked
Petr Viktorin <[email protected]>
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On 04. 07. 22 19:03, Miro Hrončok wrote: > On 04. 07. 22 18:53, Pablo Galindo Salgado wrote: >> Hi Miro, >> >> >> Are all release blockers automatically blocking the next beta? >> >> Yes. >> >> >> Or does it mean this should not be released in final (and hence >> neither rc) >> versions? >> >> Release blockers block also beta releases (if the RM decides so). >> >> >> Would it make sense to release 3.11.0b4 with some not-yet-fixed >> blockers? >> >> No, the reason is that fixes can introduce more regressions and those >> need to be fixed. If these fixes >> are pretty big we would be risking big changes in the RC phase, which >> we want to avoid. The idea is that >> the fixes to critical problems reported on beta x can be tested on >> beta x+1. >> >> At the end of the day, this is all subjected to the judgement of the >> release manager, and given how many >> release blockers we have been getting and how many of these have been >> reported past week *after* several >> attempts to release the next beta, I have decided to wait. > > Thanks. Understood. > >> Additionally, I am considering pushing the full release some months in >> the future to allow for more betas, given >> how unstable 3.11 is currently. > > Some months sounds pretty big to me. Once the current beta is released, > I'd be great to see some updated release schedule. We have just updated > the main Python version Fedora 37 to 3.11 and we have some deadlines I'd > like not to miss. > > https://fedorapeople.org/groups/schedule/f-37/f-37-key-tasks.html > 2022-08-23 - Fedora 37 Beta Freeze > 2022-10-04 - Fedora 37 Final Freeze > > It would be really great to get something ABI stable at Beta Freeze and > at least an RC at the Final Freeze. If that is not realistic, we would > need to consider a revert. Worse than a one-time revert. With the current schedule, the projects' testing phases overlap so Fedora can test rebuilding all its Python software with Python's alphas/betas. If the schedule is adjusted or made unreliable, Fedora might need to add a six-month delay and rebuild with final releases -- and find bugs much later. _______________________________________________ Python-Dev mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] https://mail.python.org/mailman3/lists/python-dev.python.org/ Message archived at https://mail.python.org/archives/list/[email protected]/message/FRAKKZNIVUL46JLPMRR76H24RSYRQMP7/ Code of Conduct: http://python.org/psf/codeofconduct/