Re: Switching to Discourse

On 06. 12. 22 11:16, Baptiste Carvello wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Le 05/12/2022 à 14:50, Stephen J. Turnbull a écrit :
>>
>>   I'd be sad, but I get the feeling that the only people left
>> reading it are "here for the community", not to develop code, …
> I think this is indeed true, but that's nothing to be sad about: "being
> here for the community" is not wrong or shameful.
> 
> Since forever, python-dev has attracted a large following of enthusiast
> Python users, who want to understand the design choices of their
> preferred language. This widely shared concern for writing idiomatic
> code is a distinguishing trait of the Python community (the whole
> culture of "pythonic" code).
> 
> Now maybe this is a place where the mailman devs could help and make a
> real difference: what if this list would become, not archive-only, but a
> *read-only mirror* of those parts of Discourse that are relevant for
> core development? That would mean setting up a pipeline starting with
> Discourse's so-called "mailing-list mode", going through the kind of
> filter stack that some core developers have been setting up for their
> personal use, and feeding into this mailing list. The last part can only
> be done with the powers of the mailman admins.
> 
> Being read-only would not be a problem in practice: non core-devs here
> read much more than they post (as they should). Being forced to log into
> a specific website is an acceptable roadblock once in a while for
> posting, just not every day for simply following the discussions.
> 
> Turning this list into a relevant mirror of Discourse is the nicest
> course of action for the hundreds of silent readers python-dev has
> gathered over the years. All those people *won't* switch to routinely
> visiting the Discourse website, no matter how much pushing and wishful
> thinking the Steering Council puts into it.

I'd like to point out that the SC decision was *reactive*, after most 
discussions moved to Discourse without SC pushing.

I liked the list myself! But as soon as most of the posts were mandatory 
PEP and release notices, it stopped being useful.


> Shutting down the list means
> kicking them away, more or less overtly.
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