Re: PEP 518 - pyproject.toml with no build-system.requires

On Tue, 17 Jul 2018, 20:44 Donald Stufft, <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Jul 17, 2018, at 5:27 AM, Paul Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> There's also a PR cost, in that projects who have enthusiastically
> adopted pyproject,toml as being a nice "common configuration"
> location, will be left feeling that maybe that wasn't such a good
> decision if it's causing them problems like this. Plus, projects like
> towncrier will need to update their docs (yes, that's a bit ideal
> world - the reality is that people simply keep doing what they do now,
> and we get the message out via a gradual process of addressing bug
> reports and providing the explanation there).
>
>
> I think that this is the most important reason not to go too crazy here. We
> should think of breaking changes as having a limited budget for introducing
> breaking changes, and the question then becomes where do we want to spend
> our
> budget? While something being relatively new means that the cost to our
> budget
> is smaller, it still has a cost and I just don’t think this is a great
> place to
> spend our budget at.
>
> On top of that, I don’t think the end result is significantly or
> meaningfully
> better for the end users, particularly if we ever get to a world where we
> isolate everything by default (which would mean that we would have to have
> an
> implicit requires of setuptools/wheel anyways).
>

Fair enough. ​I just wanted to
​make the build-system table to be more visible to end
users​, since I feel the cost here is justified by the benefit
​s​
. If others don't agree,
that's cool. I don't feel super strongly about this tbh
​. I am not opposed to keeping
the​ ​status quo on this matter​ and am on board with Paul's suggestion of
making the
build-system table optional. :)

​Pradyun​

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