[Python.NET] Working group notes for January 14, 2021

Mark Visser <[email protected]> Thu, 14 Jan 2021 12:36:50 -0500
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(I think I forgot to send out the previous meeting notes - you can find =
them in the Google doc linked at the bottom of this message)

Attendees: Benedikt, Mark, Victor, Benoit, Felix, Amos

Agenda
Review last week's action items:
Benedikt will fix 32-bit issues
Benedikt to add test that loads unicode function names
Felix will submit PR for #1333 (function delegates)
Felix will submit PR that rewrites import hook to use pure Python (see =
#1096 & #727)

Notes:
32-bit issues
nothing done yet, Benedikt will look into this
test that loads unicode function names
merged! PR #1329
problem was that we need to make sure we always use our own UTF-8 =
marshaller
we can't use the .NET one because it doesn't exist in all .NET =
frameworks
PR fixes the issue where Benedikt saw it, but there are possibly other =
places where the same issue exists
follow-up issue is #1354
let's link all encoding problems to this issue
in Python 3 it's all UTF-8
this particular issue (unicode function names) is fixed
function delegates=20
merged! PR #1333
rewrite of import hook to use pure Python (see #1096 & #727)
in progress (Felix)
rewrite avoids entering C# unless we absolutely need to, because there's =
no way to prevent C# from "owning" a thread that calls C#, and once C# =
owns it domain reload hangs waiting for the thread to exit
fixes a common pattern "try import PySide; except: import PySide2" - =
previous implementation hits C# on the first import call, even if PySide =
doesn't exist
internal compiler error (https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/49760)
still present in latest .NET 5.0.2
might still be a Roslyn point release?
doesn't help because Roslyn likely frozen until .NET 6
Victor will find out when they plan on releasing a fix
required for replacing PInvoke delegates for reference types with using =
unmanaged function pointers (supposed to work in new C#, but triggers an =
internal compiler error)
blocking our ability to do a multi-stage startup and dynamically bind to =
the right Python dll/dso/dylib anywhere but Mono (which supports =
__Internal as the DllImport string)
helpful for embedding .NET in Python since want to use the statically =
linked symbols in the python executable - using a dynamic library, even =
if present, leads to weird problems
we'll find out if a fix is forthcoming and if not, use a workaround

Action items:
Benedikt will fix 32-bit issues
Felix will complete rewrite of import hook to avoid calling C# unless =
necessary
Victor will find out if there will be a Roslyn release fixing the =
internal compiler error

The meeting notes google doc is here =
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJVU84B_dgx58-_EopjRtOJVFAI2WfHJYV0n7=
uE1Oak/edit#>. Feel free to correct or add additional information.
The next meeting will be held on Thursday, January 28 at 12pm EST (click =
for your time zone) <https://www.google.com/search?q=3D12:00+pm+EST>.


Mark Visser
Senior Dev Manager, M&E
Unity Technologies - www.unity3d.com <http://www.unity3d.com/>







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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 11pt; =
white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">(I think I forgot to send out the =
previous meeting notes - you can find them in the Google doc linked at =
the bottom of this message)</span></div><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; =
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class=3D"">Attendees: Benedikt, Mark, Victor, Benoit, Felix, =
Amos</span></div><br class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; =
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normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Review last =
week's action items:</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
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vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Benedikt =
will fix 32-bit issues</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Benedikt to add test that loads unicode function =
names</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Felix will submit PR for #1333 (function =
delegates)</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Felix will submit PR that rewrites import hook to =
use pure Python (see #1096 &amp; #727)</span></div></li></ul></ul><br =
class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial; font-weight: 700; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
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vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" =
class=3D"">Notes:</span></div><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">32-bit =
issues</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" =
aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">nothing =
done yet, Benedikt will look into this</span></div></li></ul><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">test that =
loads unicode function names</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">merged! PR =
#1329</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">problem was that we need to make sure we always =
use our own UTF-8 marshaller</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: =
0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"3" style=3D"list-style-type: square; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">we can't =
use the .NET one because it doesn't exist in all .NET =
frameworks</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"3" =
style=3D"list-style-type: square; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">PR fixes the issue where Benedikt saw it, but =
there are possibly other places where the same issue =
exists</span></div></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">follow-up issue is #1354</span></div></li><ul =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: =
48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"3" =
style=3D"list-style-type: square; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">let's link all encoding problems to this =
issue</span></div></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">in Python 3 it's all UTF-8</span></div></li><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">this =
particular issue (unicode function names) is =
fixed</span></div></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">function delegates </span></div></li><ul =
style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: =
48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">merged! </span><span style=3D"white-space: =
pre-wrap; font-size: 11pt;" class=3D"">PR =
#1333</span></div></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">rewrite of import hook to use pure Python (see =
#1096 &amp; #727)</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">in progress =
(Felix)</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">rewrite avoids entering C# unless we absolutely =
need to, because there's no way to prevent C# from "owning" a thread =
that calls C#, and once C# owns it domain reload hangs waiting for the =
thread to exit</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">fixes a common pattern "try import PySide; except: =
import PySide2" - previous implementation hits C# on the first import =
call, even if PySide doesn't exist</span></div></li></ul><li dir=3D"ltr" =
aria-level=3D"1" style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">internal =
compiler error (<a href=3D"https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/49760" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/49760</a>)</span></div>=
</li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">still present in latest .NET =
5.0.2</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">might still be a Roslyn point =
release?</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">doesn't help because Roslyn likely frozen until =
.NET 6</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor will find out when they plan on releasing a =
fix</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">required for replacing PInvoke delegates for =
reference types with using unmanaged function pointers (supposed to work =
in new C#, but triggers an internal compiler error)</span></div></li><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">blocking =
our ability to do a multi-stage startup and dynamically bind to the =
right Python dll/dso/dylib anywhere but Mono (which supports __Internal =
as the DllImport string)</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2"=
 style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">helpful for embedding .NET in Python since want to =
use the statically linked symbols in the python executable - using a =
dynamic library, even if present, leads to weird =
problems</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">we'll find out if a fix is forthcoming and if not, =
use a workaround</span></div></li></ul></ul><br class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-weight: 700; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Action =
items:</span></div><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Benedikt will fix 32-bit =
issues</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Felix will complete rewrite of import hook to =
avoid calling C# unless necessary</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" =
aria-level=3D"1" style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor will =
find out if there will be a Roslyn release fixing the internal compiler =
error</span></div></li></ul></span><div class=3D""><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div class=3D""><span style=3D"caret-color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">The meeting notes google doc is</span><a =
href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJVU84B_dgx58-_EopjRtOJVFAI2Wf=
HJYV0n7uE1Oak/edit#" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11.5pt; =
font-family: Arial; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D""> =
</span><span style=3D"font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Arial; color: =
rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">here</span></a><span =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: =
11.5pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">. Feel free =
to correct or add additional information.</span></div></div><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); =
line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">The next =
meeting will be held on Thursday, January 28 at </span><a =
href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3D12:00+pm+EST" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration: underline; =
text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">12pm EST (click for your time =
zone)</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">.</span></div><br style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D""></div><br class=3D""><div class=3D"">=

<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: =
rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: =
0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; =
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
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text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
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break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">Mark Visser<div class=3D""><i class=3D"">Senior=
 Dev Manager, M&amp;E</i><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Unity Technologies</b>&nbsp;-&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"http://www.unity3d.com/" target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color: =
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