[Python.NET] Working group notes for April 22, 2021

Mark Visser <[email protected]> Thu, 22 Apr 2021 12:16:10 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.python.dotnet
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Attendees: Victor, Mark, Felix, Benoit

Agenda:
Review last week's action items:
Victor to make a list of breaking changes in his branch that could land =
for 3.0 and discuss with Benedikt
Felix to review #1426 <https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1426>
Victor to update Improve Python <-> .NET exception integration =
<https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1134>=20
Victor to update https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133 =
<https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133> and check with =
Benedikt that it's still good to land for 3.0
Benoit to test on Apple Silicon & derisk

Notes:
Improve Python <-> .NET exception integration =
<https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1134> blocked: waiting for =
#1426 & #1441 to land
Python 3.7 doesn't build on Apple Silicon
fixes won't be backported to 3.7
3.9 is earliest version that will support Apple Silicon

Action Items:
Victor to make a list of breaking changes in his branch that could land =
for 3.0 and discuss with Benedikt
Felix to review #1426 <https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1426> =
& #1441 <https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1441>
Victor to update https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133 =
<https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133> and check with =
Benedikt that it's still good to land for 3.0

The meeting notes google doc is here =
<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJVU84B_dgx58-_EopjRtOJVFAI2WfHJYV0n7=
uE1Oak/edit#>. Feel free to correct or add additional information.
The next meeting will be held on Thursday, May 6 at 12pm EST (click for =
your time zone) <https://www.google.com/search?q=3D12:00+pm+EST>.

Mark Visser
Senior Dev Manager, M&E
Unity Technologies - www.unity3d.com <http://www.unity3d.com/>







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week's action items:</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
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normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor to =
make a list of breaking changes in his branch that could land for 3.0 =
and discuss with Benedikt</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" =
aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; =
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vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Felix to =
review </span><a href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1426"=
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class=3D"">#1426</span></a></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
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font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
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font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor to update </span><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1134" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
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text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Improve Python &lt;-&gt; =
.NET exception integration</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">&nbsp;</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor to =
update </span><a href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133"=
 style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
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class=3D"">https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D""> and check =
with Benedikt that it's still good to land for 3.0</span></div></li><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
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class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Benoit to =
test on Apple Silicon &amp; derisk</span></div></li></ul></ul><br =
class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
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class=3D"">Notes:</span></div><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; =
margin-bottom: 0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li =
dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: =
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vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><a href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1134" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Improve Python &lt;-&gt; =
.NET exception integration</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D""> blocked: waiting for #1426 &amp; #1441 to =
land</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Python 3.7 doesn't build on Apple =
Silicon</span></div></li><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: =
0px; padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" =
aria-level=3D"2" style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; =
font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">fixes won't =
be backported to 3.7</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"2" =
style=3D"list-style-type: circle; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">3.9 is earliest version that will support Apple =
Silicon</span></div></li></ul></ul><br class=3D""><div =
style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt;" =
class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-weight: 700; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Action =
Items:</span></div><ul style=3D"margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; =
padding-inline-start: 48px;" class=3D""><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor to make a list of breaking changes in his =
branch that could land for 3.0 and discuss with =
Benedikt</span></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Felix to review </span><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1426" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">#1426</span></a><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D""> &amp; =
</span><a href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1441" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" =
class=3D"">#1441</span></a></div></li><li dir=3D"ltr" aria-level=3D"1" =
style=3D"list-style-type: disc; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre;" class=3D""><div style=3D"line-height: 1.38; margin-top: 0pt; =
margin-bottom: 0pt;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">Victor to update </span><a =
href=3D"https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
text-decoration: underline; text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: =
baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" =
class=3D"">https://github.com/pythonnet/pythonnet/pull/1133</span></a><spa=
n style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-variant-ligatures: normal; =
font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D""> and check =
with Benedikt that it's still good to land for =
3.0</span></div></li></ul></span><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div=
 class=3D""><span =
id=3D"docs-internal-guid-96f67fab-7fff-870a-6003-e06048d92e1d" =
style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0);" class=3D""><div =
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pre-wrap;" class=3D"">The meeting notes google doc is</span><a =
href=3D"https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rJVU84B_dgx58-_EopjRtOJVFAI2Wf=
HJYV0n7uE1Oak/edit#" style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span =
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normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
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baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">here</span></a><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">. Feel free =
to correct or add additional information.</span></div><span =
style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; font-variant-ligatures: =
normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; font-variant-position: normal; =
vertical-align: baseline; white-space: pre-wrap;" class=3D"">The next =
meeting will be held on Thursday, May 6 at </span><a =
href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?q=3D12:00+pm+EST" =
style=3D"text-decoration: none;" class=3D""><span style=3D"font-size: =
11pt; font-family: Arial; color: rgb(17, 85, 204); =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; text-decoration: underline; =
text-decoration-skip: none; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
pre-wrap;" class=3D"">12pm EST (click for your time =
zone)</span></a><span style=3D"font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; =
font-variant-ligatures: normal; font-variant-east-asian: normal; =
font-variant-position: normal; vertical-align: baseline; white-space: =
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class=3D""><div class=3D"">Mark Visser<div class=3D""><i class=3D"">Senior=
 Dev Manager, M&amp;E</i><br class=3D""><div class=3D""><b =
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