[Python.NET] Re: WPF or other GUI with PythonNet & Clingo

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Hi David,

That's definitely possible. I am doing something similar with the tool that
I am developing (see www.simba.io). However, please note that if you base
your UI on WPF:
- Your app will be only compatible with Windows
- The size of the Python module might be quite large

Microsoft did not put a lot of effort on WPF recently, If you are familiar
with XAML/C#, you can also look at .Net MAUI, the Windows APP Sdk (Project
Reunion) or AvaloniaUI.

I hope this helps.

Regards,
Emmanuel.

On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:39 AM David Epstein <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi folks!
>
> This is my first post. In short, I'd like to know whether it is a good
> idea to use PythonNet within a MVVM framework to glue the models (that rely
> on a Python package) to the user interface's view models and views (that
> rely on C# and WPF controls). If it is a good idea, I'd welcome advice
> (e.g. working with PythonNet within a Visual Studio C# project). If it is
> *not* a good idea, I'd welcome alternatives (e.g. Python GUIs with
> desktop functionality like docking).
>
> Here are the details. I'm creating a graphical, desktop, turn-based
> game/simulation based on the logic programming system, Clingo
> <https://potassco.org/>, which is accessible from Python (via import
> clingo <https://pypi.org/project/clingo/>). While other language bindings
> exist for Clingo (including a nascent C# one
> <https://github.com/NEKERAFA/clingo-cs>), the Python binding appears to
> be the most complete and most popular.
>
> However, I've only created GUI's using C# frameworks (WPF &
> Xamarin.Forms). Since I'd like this application to include docking, data
> grid, rich-text editor, tooltips, and other Windows desktop staples, I'm
> inclined to use WPF. I may have access to DevExpress' WPF controls
> <https://www.devexpress.com/products/net/controls/wpf/> and technical
> support, the latter of which might require me to use C# (not sure).
>
> What do you think?
>
> Thank you,
> -david
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi David,<div><br></div><div>That&#39;s definitely=C2=A0po=
ssible. I am doing something similar with the tool that I am developing=C2=
=A0(see <a href=3D"http://www.simba.io">www.simba.io</a>). However, please =
note that if you base your UI on WPF:</div><div>- Your app will be only com=
patible with Windows</div><div>- The size of the Python module might be qui=
te large</div><div><br></div><div>Microsoft did not put=C2=A0a lot of effor=
t=C2=A0on WPF recently, If you are familiar with=C2=A0XAML/C#, you can also=
 look at .Net MAUI, the Windows APP Sdk=C2=A0(Project Reunion) or AvaloniaU=
I.</div><div><br></div><div>I hope this=C2=A0helps.</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Regards,</div><div>Emmanuel.=C2=A0</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, May 3, 2022 at 11:39 AM D=
avid Epstein &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">davidlepstein=
@outlook.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
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<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Hi folks! <br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
This is my first post. In short, I&#39;d like to know whether it is a good =
idea to use PythonNet within a MVVM framework to glue the models (that rely=
 on a Python package) to the user interface&#39;s view models and views (th=
at rely on C# and WPF controls). If it is
 a good idea, I&#39;d welcome advice (e.g. working with PythonNet within a =
Visual Studio C# project). If it is
<i>not</i> a good idea, I&#39;d welcome alternatives (e.g. Python GUIs with=
 desktop functionality like docking).<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Here are the details. I&#39;m creating a graphical, desktop, turn-based gam=
e/simulation based on the logic programming system,
<a href=3D"https://potassco.org/" title=3D"https://potassco.org/" target=3D=
"_blank">
Clingo</a>, which is accessible from Python (via <a href=3D"https://pypi.or=
g/project/clingo/" title=3D"https://pypi.org/project/clingo/" target=3D"_bl=
ank">
import clingo</a>). While other language bindings exist for Clingo (includi=
ng a <a href=3D"https://github.com/NEKERAFA/clingo-cs" title=3D"https://git=
hub.com/NEKERAFA/clingo-cs" target=3D"_blank">
nascent C# one</a>), the Python binding appears to be the most complete and=
 most popular.<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
However, I&#39;ve only created GUI&#39;s using C# frameworks (WPF &amp; Xam=
arin.Forms). Since I&#39;d like this application to include docking, data g=
rid, rich-text editor, tooltips, and other Windows desktop staples, I&#39;m=
 inclined to use WPF. I may have access to
<a href=3D"https://www.devexpress.com/products/net/controls/wpf/" title=3D"=
https://www.devexpress.com/products/net/controls/wpf/" target=3D"_blank">
DevExpress&#39; WPF controls</a> and technical support, the latter of which=
 might require me to use C# (not sure).</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
What do you think?<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
Thank you,</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color=
:rgb(0,0,0)">
-david<br>
</div>
</div>

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