Re: Python Certificate

Wonntann via Edu-sig <[email protected]> Wed, 4 May 2022 18:57:09 +0200 (CEST)
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Was it this presentation?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiqeUVgrNnU

I have written a basic foundation for Python, found at https://github.com/wonntann/Python, with exercises
in the docs directory.

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Tanya <https://twitter.com/wonntann>
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May 4, 2022, 09:04 by [email protected]:

> Thank you for the quick feedback. I will try to find the PyCon presentation then :) I think, the "keeping the questions secure and secret" may be solved:
> - there are questions which are kind of definitions and they are not secret (if you learn the right answer you learn the core syntax, etc.);
> - there are exercises like questions which can be dynamically generated and verified; so, you can't cheat the answer.
> I'm very curious what other issues you consider.
>
> Gabor
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2022, at 4:18 PM, Reuven M. Lerner wrote:
>
>> There was a great talk given at PyCon 2019's education summit about 
>> certification.  (I'm sorry that I don't remember who gave it, because it 
>> was excellent, and laid out the issues very clearly.)  It really opened 
>> my eyes to the complexity and difficulty of creating a good 
>> certification program -- but also the importance of having one run by 
>> the community, rather than companies.
>>
>> I would be happy to chat with other people about setting up some sort of 
>> PSF-sponsored Python certification program, which would benefit everyone 
>> in the community.  But it won't be easy or a short-term project, and 
>> there are many issues to deal with, including the need for keeping the 
>> questions secure and secret, while keeping it an open-source project.
>>
>> Reuven
>>
>> Carl Karsten wrote on 04/05/2022 10:10:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2022 at 8:59 AM <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have checked out the the Python certification programs and I think it would be interesting to create something more "official" and more open/cheaper. I have found a Polish company which calls itself as Python-Institute (which is a bit misleading name in my opinion as it suggest that it is officially related to some organization of the Python community) and sells tests/certs from approx. fifty to several hundred EUR depending on the level. I have tried the entry level and for me it was disappointing from the perspective of the quality of the questions. I haven't tried Microsoft's certification yet.
>>>>  I think it would be a very viable option to create a certification program which is officially supported by the PSF and provide some reasonable pricing (i.e. free if someone just want do a self assessment and a reasonable price if someone want to take the test in a controlled environment). The scope could be the core language elements.
>>>>  Let me know what you think about the usefulness of the idea.
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