Re: my recent YouTube mentioning edu-sig

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I realized we went out of the list, that was my fault.

I also have to put in the field the need for basic things to be learned by
our kids, taking care of themselves in spiritual and also affective ways to
be able to socialize.

I agree with you, that we need to experiment a lot.


El jue, 14 sept 2023 a las 8:22, kirby urner (<[email protected]>)
escribi=C3=B3:

>
> These pressures to reform are coming at a hard time for many teachers,
> many of whom are quitting.  Their work environment has degraded.
>
> What happens nowadays is the kids become young adults and many realize
> high school did not equip them with even the basics, and end up paying fo=
r
> these "boot camp" schools (I sometimes work with those) that try to
> compensate in various dimensions.
>
> But these are not a good fit in many cases. Not everyone wants to be a we=
b
> developer. They just need more technical knowledge than they've been
> getting.
>
> Anyway, there's a lot of need for experimentation with novel solutions.
>
> Kirby
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59=E2=80=AFPM Igor TAmara <[email protected]=
g> wrote:
>
>> I saw what you are telling and makes full sense. The gap between the
>> students that are able to use programming languages at school and the
>> others will be huge.
>>
>> We need to make our teachers capable of taking this challenge.
>>
>> El mi=C3=A9., 13 de sep. de 2023, 7:13 p. m., kirby urner <
>> [email protected]> escribi=C3=B3:
>>
>>>
>>> FYI:
>>>
>>> https://youtu.be/KUBA9Z8PRpU
>>>
>>> It's mostly about books, but edu-sig is mentioned.
>>>
>>> Kirby
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I realized we went out of the list, that was my fault.<div=
><br></div><div>I also have to put in the field the need for basic things t=
o be learned by our kids, taking care of themselves in spiritual and also a=
ffective ways to be able to socialize.</div><div><br></div><div>I agree wit=
h you, that we need to experiment a lot.</div><div><br></div></div><br><div=
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t 2023 a las 8:22, kirby urner (&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
">[email protected]</a>&gt;) escribi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_defau=
lt" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:=
small">These pressures to reform are coming at a hard time for many teacher=
s, many of whom are quitting.=C2=A0 Their work environment has degraded.</d=
iv><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;fon=
t-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:v=
erdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">What happens nowadays is the kids become=
 young adults and many realize high school did not equip them with even the=
 basics, and end up paying for these &quot;boot camp&quot; schools (I somet=
imes work with those)=C2=A0that try to compensate in various dimensions. =
=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-=
serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">But these are not a good fit in=
 many cases. Not everyone wants to be a web developer. They just need more =
technical knowledge than they&#39;ve been getting.</div><div class=3D"gmail=
_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></di=
v><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font=
-size:small">Anyway, there&#39;s a lot of need for experimentation with nov=
el solutions.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdan=
a,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kirby</div><div class=
=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"=
><br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"g=
mail_attr">On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:59=E2=80=AFPM Igor TAmara &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><d=
iv dir=3D"auto">I saw what you are telling and makes full sense. The gap be=
tween the students that are able to use programming languages at school and=
 the others will be huge.<div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">We n=
eed to make our teachers capable of taking this challenge.</div></div><br><=
div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">El mi=C3=A9=
., 13 de sep. de 2023, 7:13 p.=C2=A0m., kirby urner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:k=
[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; escri=
bi=C3=B3:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0p=
x 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-s=
erif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-=
family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small">FYI:</div><div class=3D"gmail_de=
fault" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><=
div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-si=
ze:small"><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/KUBA9Z8PRpU" rel=3D"noreferrer" targe=
t=3D"_blank">https://youtu.be/KUBA9Z8PRpU</a><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-=
size:small">It&#39;s mostly about books, but edu-sig is mentioned.</div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size=
:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana=
,sans-serif;font-size:small">Kirby</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div>
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