Re: The Future of Python

You've convinced me that brython is interesting. I still think it would
require a miracle for it to become mainstream, but it has a better change
than pythonb.org. :-)


On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 3:35 PM, Glyph <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> On Feb 10, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Guido van Rossum <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Then we're doomed, because this is entirely political (the companies
> making browsers must want to do it).
>
>
> Not at all.  There are a number of promising proofs of concept,
> demonstrating different aspects of this problem: Pyjamas, the PyJS fork of
> Pyjamas, Skulpt, Empythoned (which actually compiles *CPython* to run in
> the browser with surprisingly reasonable performance!), Brython, and PyPy's
> now defunct JS backend to name a few.  With source maps, it's even possible
> to use native JavaScript debugging and profiling tools on Browser-hosted
> Python.
>
> The political problem is entirely based around getting the various
> interested parties together and trying to hammer out some kind of common
> core that they can all get running and contribute to, rather than
> duplicating tons and tons of effort and only ever getting to a 60% solution.
>
> Browser vendors seem perfectly happy to treat JavaScript as a compilation
> target; efforts like ASM.JS are in fact trying to formalize this process
> and provide support for it.  Most of these Py-to-JS converters work fine on
> mobile devices, too.
>
> Guido, if you haven't checked it out, <http://www.brython.info> is a
> *very* interesting demo: it literally makes <script type="text/python3">
> work in a web page, with nothing beyond a single JavaScript file include
> (no local compilation, no offline processing).  The only problem is that
> the language really isn't quite Python - see, for example, <
> https://bitbucket.org/olemis/brython/issue/147/generators-send-method-missed>.
>  But they've made a surprising amount of progress since I last checked, and
> they seem to be closing issues all the time :-).
>
> -glyph
>
>


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--Guido van Rossum (python.org/~guido)

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