Re: Other language character sin python IDLE

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FWIW on linux (fedora 35, gnome on Xorg, python & IDLE 3.10.2, Tk 8.6.10)
it seems to generally not type anything non-ascii.
I added a "Tamil (TamilNet 99))" layout and I can't type any tamil letters
into IDLE =E2=80=94 nothing happens unless it's a digit or punctuation shar=
ed with
ASCII.
But same happens with my Hebrew and Russian layouts!

Copy-paste of all these languages from other apps works.

Sorry, I don't know enough about Tk[inter] to help, other than confirming
this.
I tried another random python/Tkinter app (`tkconch`) and it has same
behavior in a single-line text input.
However, `git citool` which is non-python pure Tk lets me type all the
above languages into a single-line text input.

=D0=BF=D1=82, 4 =D1=84=D0=B5=D0=B2=D1=80. 2022 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 00:25, Terry =
Reedy <[email protected]>:

> On 2/2/2022 2:38 PM, Mailvaganasundaram Ram Mohan wrote:
>
> > For many years I use python to teach programming to kids. But I am
> > unable to type our Tamil language characters (such as =E0=AE=85, =E0=AE=
=86, =E0=AE=87, =E0=AE=88) in the
> > IDLE. I can type in other editors and copy back IDLE, but directly
> > typing in shell or IDLE is not possible.
>
> This is mostly not an IDLE issue. Your keyboard talks to your OS, which
> talks to the tk gui framework, which talks to python's tkinter module,
> which talks with IDLE.  IDLE's only effect should be setting the font
> and size to use.
>
> What OS are you using?  On Windows, I installed Tamil(India) support.
> In IDLE I typed some random letter keys after switching to Tamil input.
>
>  >>> for c in '=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=
=AE=AA=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=AE=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=
=AE':
> ...     print(hex(ord(c)))
> ...
> 0xbae
> 0xbcd
> 0xbaa
> 0xba4
> ...
>
> Tamil has some extra wide characters that can interfere with editing.
> That is a limitation of the tk Text widget.
>
> For more help, you might post to python-list.
> https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>FWIW on linux (fedora 35, gnome on Xorg, python &amp;=
 IDLE 3.10.2, Tk 8.6.10) it seems to generally not type anything non-ascii.=
</div><div>I added a &quot;Tamil (TamilNet 99))&quot; layout and I can&#39;=
t type any tamil letters into IDLE =E2=80=94 nothing happens unless it&#39;=
s a digit or punctuation shared with ASCII.</div><div>But same happens with=
 my Hebrew and Russian layouts!</div><div><br></div><div>Copy-paste of all =
these languages from other apps works.</div><div><br></div><div>Sorry, I do=
n&#39;t know enough about Tk[inter] to help, other than confirming this.</d=
iv><div></div><div>I tried another random python/Tkinter app (`tkconch`) an=
d it has same behavior in a single-line text input.<br></div><div>However, =
`git citool` which is non-python pure Tk lets me type all the above languag=
es into a single-line text input.<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">=D0=BF=D1=82, 4 =D1=84=D0=B5=D0=
=B2=D1=80. 2022 =D0=B3. =D0=B2 00:25, Terry Reedy &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tjr=
[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,20=
4,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2/2/2022 2:38 PM, Mailvaganasundaram Ram Mohan =
wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; For many years I use python to teach programming to kids. But I am <br=
>
&gt; unable to type our Tamil language characters (such as =E0=AE=85, =E0=
=AE=86, =E0=AE=87, =E0=AE=88) in the <br>
&gt; IDLE. I can type in other editors and copy back IDLE, but directly <br=
>
&gt; typing in shell or IDLE is not possible.<br>
<br>
This is mostly not an IDLE issue. Your keyboard talks to your OS, which <br=
>
talks to the tk gui framework, which talks to python&#39;s tkinter module, =
<br>
which talks with IDLE.=C2=A0 IDLE&#39;s only effect should be setting the f=
ont <br>
and size to use.<br>
<br>
What OS are you using?=C2=A0 On Windows, I installed Tamil(India) support. =
<br>
In IDLE I typed some random letter keys after switching to Tamil input.<br>
<br>
=C2=A0&gt;&gt;&gt; for c in &#39;=E0=AE=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=
=AE=E0=AF=8D=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=AE=E0=AE=A4=E0=AE=AA=E0=AF=8D=
=E0=AE=AA=E0=AE=AE&#39;:<br>
...=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0print(hex(ord(c)))<br>
...<br>
0xbae<br>
0xbcd<br>
0xbaa<br>
0xba4<br>
...<br>
<br>
Tamil has some extra wide characters that can interfere with editing. <br>
That is a limitation of the tk Text widget.<br>
<br>
For more help, you might post to python-list.<br>
<a href=3D"https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-list" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/python-=
list</a><br>
<br>
-- <br>
Terry Jan Reedy<br>
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</blockquote></div>

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