Re: bye bye mod_python, hello... what?

Samuel Hazelett wrote:

"unfortunately,
mod_python is deprecated"

What does this mean: deprecated

Why?

Does it mean there will be no future releases of mod_python? The "end
of history!"

I was just getting started. Woe is me/us.

Yeah, I am the same way, especially, having worked with php some, with
losing the concept of psp as well as the publisher handler.

But from what I can tell the WSGI API bridge is a much better idea.
mod_wsgi is designed to be to python what rails is to ruby.

Except python is a standards based technology!;-)

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From:
Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]>

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Sent: Tue, January 12,
2010 5:27:34 PM

Subject: Re:
[mod_python] bye bye mod_python, hello... what?

2010/1/13 Clodoaldo Neto <[email protected] >:

> 2010/1/12 mog <[email protected] >:

>> So, the time has come. I need to start a new project and also
migrate my old

>> mod_python stuff to something else :(

>>

>> After all the sweat, blood and tears I put into learning about
how Python

>> web apps work, learning how to use mod_python, and how to put
web apps

>> together (using mod_python). It's really sad to think that a
good portion of

>> that effort seems lost because, unfortunately, mod_python is
deprecated :(

>>

>> I looked at a few web frameworks but found they either simply
didn't work,

>> exhibited weird random unpredictable behaviour that was
impossible to work

>> with, or seemed to abstract so far away from real HTTP which
made me feel

>> uncomfortable. I finally settled on mod_python because it
seemed to be a

>> nice balance of powerful functionality and usefulness - oh,
and it worked.

>>

>> With mod_python I felt as though I was working closely with
the HTTP

>> requests because I could use the request objects directly and,
if I wanted

>> (and I did), stick stuff in them to use in sessions.
mod_python seemed

>> pretty raw, but not so much so that I had to write my own
request handlers

>> and all the nitty gritty things like that (which, being new to
web

>> development, was and probably still is beyond my ability to do
well and

>> securely). I liked it because it also provided lots of
in-built utilities

>> making it really easy to do session handling, redirection and
so on.

>>

>> I'm trying to avoid using one of the mainstream frameworks
because I feel

>> they overcomplicate things, bloat things up, and abstract too
much away from

>> what is really going on. Many of them annoyingly also end up
requiring a

>> bazillion dependencies to install. Personally I like to use
small and

>> compact programs that are really good at doing the small
number of things I

>> need them to, as opposed to installing some giant application
(and all its

>> dependencies) that can do everything under the sun I'll never
use.

>>

>> With all this in mind. I was hoping someone would please be so
kind as to

>> recommend things that I could use instead of mod_python as a
WSGI layer, but

>> that hopefully works in a similar way to mod_python?

>

> You could start trying Werkzeug which calls itself "a simple

> collection of various utilities for WSGI applications".

>

> http://werkzeug.pocoo.org/

>

> Then WebOb:

>

> http://pythonpaste.org/webob/

>

> Regarding small and simple I think the two above are some of the
best

> approaches but don't expect something like the mod_python's
publisher

> handler.

I'd second Werkzeug, but also add 'bobo' which uses Paste but gives

some simple to use URL dispatch mechanisms.

Neither have inbuilt session support however, so for that you would

need to use Beaker.

Graham

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