Re: The mod_python project soon to be officially dead.
Raphaël B. <[email protected]> Fri, 28 May 2010 02:18:13 +0200
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--===============0977940763== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d9a0fa8a470c04879c725b --0016e6d9a0fa8a470c04879c725b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ? 'cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publisher ..) and I would like to continue using it. Is it as simple as for mod_python to use sessions ? It's really difficult to change the way we make things ... Rapha=EBl 2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> > On 28 May 2010 09:53, Jason Caldwell <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi Graham -- > > I would like to see mod_python continue on. Supporting Py3. > > Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of > mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution. > > Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes > issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out what > the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should > be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almost > 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot > smaller interface than mod_python. > > Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and > seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to > Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and > right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do > that. > > > I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and > lightness of mod_python. > > Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These > are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called > a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take > much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework > that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. But > one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the > various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to > be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do > you preserve these bad design issues or fix them? > > Graham > > > On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote: > > > >> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting closer > now. > >> > >> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic at: > >> > >> > http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.= html > >> > >> Graham > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mod_python mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Mod_python mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python > --0016e6d9a0fa8a470c04879c725b Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi,<br><br>Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ?<br>= 9;cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publ= isher ..) and I would like to continue using it.<br><br>Is it as simple as = for mod_python to use sessions ?<br> <br>It's really difficult to change the way we make things ...<br><br>R= apha=EBl<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <span= dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">graham.dumpl= [email protected]</a>></span><br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; borde= r-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">On 28 May 2010 09= :53, Jason Caldwell <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]<= /a>> wrote:<br> > Hi Graham --<br> > I would like to see mod_python continue on. =A0Supporting Py3.<br> <br> Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of<br> mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution.<br> <br> Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes<br> issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out what<br> the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should<br> be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almost<br> 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot<br> smaller interface than mod_python.<br> <br> Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and<br> seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to<br> Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and<br> right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do<br> that.<br> <br> > I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and ligh= tness of mod_python.<br> <br> Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These<br> are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called<br> a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take<= br> much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework<br> that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. But<br> one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the<br> various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to<br> be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do<br> you preserve these bad design issues or fix them?<br> <br> Graham<br> <br> > On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote:<br> ><br> >> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting clo= ser now.<br> >><br> >> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic= at:<br> >><br> >> =A0<a href=3D"http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-s= oon-to-be-officially.html" target=3D"_blank">http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/= 05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-officially.html</a><br> >><br> >> Graham<br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> Mod_python mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]= rg</a><br> >> <a href=3D"http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_pytho= n" target=3D"_blank">http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_pyth= on</a><br> ><br> ><br> <br> _______________________________________________<br> Mod_python mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br= > <a href=3D"http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python" target= =3D"_blank">http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python</a><br= > </blockquote></div><br> --0016e6d9a0fa8a470c04879c725b-- --===============0977940763== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ Mod_python mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python --===============0977940763==--