Re: The mod_python project soon to be officially dead.
Martijn Moeling <[email protected]> Tue, 8 Jun 2010 15:07:03 +0200
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This is the reason I made a MP2WSGI "framework" Which is in fact a MP code compatible MP adapter for MOD_WSGI I run it in production but: I have not yet got the util and PSP modules to work since there are some = technical issues I have not found the time to solve. This could very well be a solution for many MOD_PYTHON users. (I stil need help on the parse_qs and parse_qsl functions for util to wor= k) I plan on integrating PSP too, contributors are welcome see http://www.bitbucket.org/mmoeling/mp2mwsgi Martijn On May 28, 2010, at 2:25 AM, Graham Dumpleton wrote: > 2010/5/28 Rapha=EBl B. <[email protected]>: >> Hi, >>=20 >> Is it possible to have something like psp with mod_wsgi ? >> 'cause I have programmed some pages with psp (i don't really like publ= isher >> ..) and I would like to continue using it. >>=20 >> Is it as simple as for mod_python to use sessions ? >>=20 >> It's really difficult to change the way we make things ... >=20 > PSP is mostly a standalone module in mod_python. There are > dependencies on the mod_python request object, forms and sessions. One > could though certainly port the PSP templating aspect to work as part > of a WSGI mini framework of some sort, but any interaction with the > request object, forms and sessions would likely need to change to > match what the mini framework provides. >=20 > Graham >=20 >> 2010/5/28 Graham Dumpleton <[email protected]> >>>=20 >>> On 28 May 2010 09:53, Jason Caldwell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Hi Graham -- >>>> I would like to see mod_python continue on. Supporting Py3. >>>=20 >>> Well, find like minded people and take on development and support of >>> mod_python yourself. That is going to be the only solution. >>>=20 >>> Knowing all the problems with how to deal with all the Unicode/bytes >>> issues in Python 3.X it is going even be a major task working out wha= t >>> the interfaces should look like and where bytes versus Unicode should >>> be used. The argument about this for WSGI has been going on for almos= t >>> 2 years now I think and still now final resolution and WSGI is a lot >>> smaller interface than mod_python. >>>=20 >>> Also, there are a significant number of bugs in mod_python and >>> seriously they would need to be addressed before even trying to go to >>> Python 3.X. All up it is going to need some serious commitment and >>> right now there is no one who who has said they are prepared to do >>> that. >>>=20 >>>> I find the frameworks annoying and really love the simplicity and >>>> lightness of mod_python. >>>=20 >>> Did you look at Werkzeug and Flask as I mentioned in the blog. These >>> are not heavy weight frameworks. Flask is specifically what is called >>> a micro framework. Even if you didn't like Flask, it wouldn't take >>> much effort to use Werkzeug to create an alternate micro framework >>> that has usage pattern not too dissimilar to mod_python publisher. Bu= t >>> one has to question whether that is a good idea either given the >>> various design issues in publisher around multiple URLs being able to >>> be used to map to a single resource and the problems that causes. Do >>> you preserve these bad design issues or fix them? >>>=20 >>> Graham >>>=20 >>>> On May 27, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Graham Dumpleton wrote: >>>>=20 >>>>> I have warned about this before on the list, but it is getting clos= er >>>>> now. >>>>>=20 >>>>> If you are a user of mod_python, read my blog post about the topic = at: >>>>>=20 >>>>>=20 >>>>> http://blog.dscpl.com.au/2010/05/modpython-project-soon-to-be-offi= cially.html >>>>>=20 >>>>> Graham >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Mod_python mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python >>>>=20 >>>>=20 >>>=20 >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Mod_python mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Mod_python mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.modpython.org/mailman/listinfo/mod_python