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Hello Josy,

This conviced me, i will stay with myhdl, i think its really great.
If there is a problem with tristate at the moment i can live with that,
as i know now how to work around.
Thanks a lot.
Regards,
guenther


Am 17.05.2015 um 21:25 schrieb Josy Boelen:
> Günther Stangassinger <guenther.stangassinger <at> gmx.net> writes:
>
>> Hello Josy,
>> thank you for your answer.
>> My problem is that i have to modify the generated verilog(vhdl) code
> to
>> make it work.
>> Is myhdl meant to be like this or do i just have bad luck with this
> example?
>> I am asking because i am very new to myhdl and this is
>> acually my second example what i was trying.
>> Are you doing large projects with myhdl?
>> I am asking because i want to know if i should
>> dig more into myhdl or should i focus more on vhdl, when i do have
>> to modify vhdl afterwards anyway.
>> So what is your experiance?
>>
>
> Hi Günther,
>
> It is a bit of bad luck, you just hit a bug in the conversion of
> TristateSignal ...
>
> I essentially switched to MyHDL *completely*. For new code, of course I
> have to maintain some 10 years+ of VHDL coding.
> Most of my MyHDL modules are components I instantiate inside Qsys, so
> they tend to be not that large (not being small either). However I did a
> quite large project in MyHDL implementing a 'Support Vector Machine' ->
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Support_Vector_Machine, which produced 6703
> lines of VHDL code.
>
> So yes, use MyHDL.
> One caveat: MyHDL is no silver bullet (there are no silver bullets ...).
> The design of RTL is very close to what you do in either VHDL or
> Verilog. But development is a factor quicker, essentially the simulation
> is where you gain most as you can use full Python to generate data for
> your testbenches and make these self-checking. E.g. in the Support
> Vector Machine module we could import a libsvm library to calculate the
> results to compare our simulation with. And to debug the RTL I wrote an
> integer version of it with lots of output written to the console to
> compare to the signals in the simulation window.
> I'm using Eclipse with PyDev for MyHDL editing/running and Impulse to
> view the simulation waveforms (under Windows 8.1)
>
> So once again, MyHDL is definitely preferable over VHDL or Verilog, and
> it is production ready. If a bug however shows up, there is a ready
> community to fix it. I already have a fix for the VHDL (others => 'Z')
> bug, but I have to inspect/fix the Verilog conversion too before I can
> issue a pull request to update the MyHDL 0.9 master development branch.
>
> Regards,
>
> Josy
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