Re: As of 2016, what is state-of-the-art in 3D with Python?
Michael Bieri <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Aug 2016 12:00:33 +0200
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--===============1552441566499873278== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6dc54e1007ed0539dcf410 --047d7b6dc54e1007ed0539dcf410 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Thanks Nicolas for that list, there are some interesting project. For the moment, I'd like to use rather simple, low-level stuff that gives me good access and an unobstructed view to what's going on on the GPU, as I might also want to do some non-graphic calculations closely related to the geometry on it. So high-level visualisation APIs like Mayavi are not the solution right now, as they also seem very "heavyweight" with a lot of dependencies. Is there a specific reason you did not recommend your own project, Glumpy? It seems to be a lean but powerful library. On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier < [email protected]> wrote: > > > GLFW is a good choice for the context handling since glut is now > deprecated. > You can find Python bindings at: https://github.com/rougier/pyglfw > > > For scientific visualization, you might be interested in: > http://glumpy.github.io and http://vispy.org > > > Pyglet (https://pyglet.readthedocs.io/en/pyglet-1.2-maintenance/) is > great but it seems unmaintained and it does not use the dynamic pipeline > (a.k.a. shaders) > > > For a very basic python tutorial on modern GL, you can have a look at: > http://glumpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial/introduction.html > > > Next, you can look at library such as ogre (http://www.ogre3d.org) that > provided python bindings. > Mayavi (http://docs.enthought.com/mayavi/mayavi/) is also worth a look > and may have already solved your problem. > > > > Nicolas > > > > > > On 12 Aug 2016, at 11:10, Michael Bieri <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi all > > > > I'm currently trying to dive into the world of 2D/3D graphics with > OpenGL. I plan to use it for scientific visualisation. Normally I'll have > data that's already close to input data for OpenGL, for example a list of > points + a list of indices creating triangles form the points + a color > value for each triangle. I plan to use it from Python. > > > > There's a lot of resources about OpenGL with Python, but I'm not quite > sure what's state-of-the-art currently since some resources are several > years old. So a few questions: > > - Is pyopengl still state-of-the-art or are there better Python bindings > for a new project? > > - Which context library and which bindings is most recommended as of > 2016? I think there's the choice between GLFW, OpenGL Context and GLUT, > plus different bindings for each. > > > > It's relatively difficult to get good answers on these questions since > not too many people do OpenGL with Python. So hopefully the mailing list > can help a bit. > > > > Best regards > > Michael > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > ------------------ > > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and > traffic > > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protocols > are > > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlow, > > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity > > planning reports. http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev___ > ____________________________________________ > > PyOpenGL Homepage > > http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net > > _______________________________________________ > > PyOpenGL-Users mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyopengl-users > > --047d7b6dc54e1007ed0539dcf410 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Nicolas for that list, there are some interesting p= roject.<div><br></div><div>For the moment, I'd like to use rather simpl= e, low-level stuff that gives me good access and an unobstructed view to wh= at's going on on the GPU, as I might also want to do some non-graphic c= alculations closely related to the geometry on it. So high-level visualisat= ion APIs like Mayavi are not the solution right now, as they also seem very= "heavyweight" with a lot of dependencies.</div><div><br></div><d= iv>Is there a specific reason you did not recommend your own project, Glump= y? It seems to be a lean but powerful library.<br></div><div><br></div></di= v><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Aug 12,= 2016 at 11:24 AM, Nicolas P. Rougier <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mail= to:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>= ></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0= 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br> <br> GLFW is a good choice for the context handling since glut is now deprecated= .<br> You can find Python bindings at: <a href=3D"https://github.com/rougier/pygl= fw" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/rougier/<wbr>py= glfw</a><br> <br> <br> For scientific visualization, you might be interested in:<br> <a href=3D"http://glumpy.github.io" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">ht= tp://glumpy.github.io</a> and <a href=3D"http://vispy.org" rel=3D"noreferre= r" target=3D"_blank">http://vispy.org</a><br> <br> <br> Pyglet (<a href=3D"https://pyglet.readthedocs.io/en/pyglet-1.2-maintenance/= " rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://pyglet.readthedocs.<wbr>io/e= n/pyglet-1.2-maintenance/</a>) is great but it seems unmaintained and it do= es not use the dynamic pipeline (a.k.a. shaders)<br> <br> <br> For a very basic python tutorial on modern GL, you can have a look at:<br> <a href=3D"http://glumpy.readthedocs.io/en/latest/tutorial/introduction.htm= l" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://glumpy.readthedocs.io/<wbr>e= n/latest/tutorial/<wbr>introduction.html</a><br> <br> <br> Next, you can look at library such as ogre (<a href=3D"http://www.ogre3d.or= g" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ogre3d.org</a>) that pro= vided python bindings.<br> Mayavi (<a href=3D"http://docs.enthought.com/mayavi/mayavi/" rel=3D"norefer= rer" target=3D"_blank">http://docs.enthought.com/<wbr>mayavi/mayavi/</a>) i= s also worth a look and may have already solved your problem.<br> <br> <br> <br> Nicolas<br> <div><div class=3D"h5"><br> <br> <br> <br> > On 12 Aug 2016, at 11:10, Michael Bieri <<a href=3D"mailto:mibieri@= gmail.com">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Hi all<br> ><br> > I'm currently trying to dive into the world of 2D/3D graphics with= OpenGL. I plan to use it for scientific visualisation. Normally I'll h= ave data that's already close to input data for OpenGL, for example a l= ist of points + a list of indices creating triangles form the points + a co= lor value for each triangle. I plan to use it from Python.<br> ><br> > There's a lot of resources about OpenGL with Python, but I'm n= ot quite sure what's state-of-the-art currently since some resources ar= e several years old. So a few questions:<br> > - Is pyopengl still state-of-the-art or are there better Python bindin= gs for a new project?<br> > - Which context library and which bindings is most recommended as of 2= 016? I think there's the choice between GLFW, OpenGL Context and GLUT, = plus different bindings for each.<br> ><br> > It's relatively difficult to get good answers on these questions s= ince not too many people do OpenGL with Python. So hopefully the mailing li= st can help a bit.<br> ><br> > Best regards<br> > Michael<br> </div></div>> ------------------------------<wbr>-----------------------= -------<wbr>------------------<br> > What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? Monitors network bandwidth and t= raffic<br> > patterns at an interface-level. Reveals which users, apps, and protoco= ls are<br> > consuming the most bandwidth. Provides multi-vendor support for NetFlo= w,<br> > J-Flow, sFlow and other flows. Make informed decisions using capacity<= br> > planning reports. <a href=3D"http://sdm.link/zohodev2dev______________= _________________________________" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">htt= p://sdm.link/zohodev2dev___<wbr>______________________________<wbr>________= ______</a><br> > PyOpenGL Homepage<br> > <a href=3D"http://pyopengl.sourceforge.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target= =3D"_blank">http://pyopengl.sourceforge.<wbr>net</a><br> > ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> > PyOpenGL-Users mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">PyOpenGL-Users= @lists.<wbr>sourceforge.net</a><br> > <a href=3D"https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/pyopengl-users= " rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.sourceforge.net/<wbr>l= ists/listinfo/pyopengl-users</a><br> <br> </blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7b6dc54e1007ed0539dcf410-- --===============1552441566499873278== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ What NetFlow Analyzer can do for you? 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