Re: ANN: PyQt v5.14.1 Released

On 07/01/2020 08:52, Florian Bruhin wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 06, 2020 at 10:29:22PM +0000, Phil Thompson wrote:
>> > Would you be willing to rethink this until
>> > https://github.com/python/cpython/pull/16782 is merged and released?
>> 
>> Any idea of when that is likely to be?
> 
> I'd hope it gets into 3.8.2 which is planned in around a month:
> https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0569/#schedule
> 
>> > Then you could answer Florian's concern about tox environments by
>> > telling users "upgrade to the latest version of python", rather than
>> > "PyQt5 wheels are incompatible with tox and possibly some other
>> > environments".
>> 
>> The advice must always be to upgrade to a later version of pip, 
>> because
>> that's the right advice. There is no need to force people to upgrade 
>> their
>> version of Python.
>> 
>> The issue here is the slowness of Linux distros in updating their 
>> packages.
> 
> Not only - as per my previous mail, a "python -m venv .venv" with 
> Python 3.8.1
> results in an older pip, even if your system-wide pip is up to date.

...which tells you there is a later version available whenever you use 
it.

> I guess you could advise people to first do a ".venv/bin/pip install -U 
> pip"
> every time after creating a virtualenv (even if their "normal" pip is 
> up to
> date), but that seems kind of unexpected to me.

...but I do automatically in order to avoid the "later version" message.

While I appreciate that there is an inconvenience as a consequence of 
the bug fix, I'm not getting the impression that this is a major 
problem.

Phil
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