Re: Pythoncard and future developements

Nextime wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 08:51:47AM -0800, [email protected] wrote:
> -SNIP-
>> I'm not in favor of forking the project. If someone is interested in
>> contributing they can simply be made a developer for the existing project.
>> We can migrate the project to svn from cvs while still utilizing the
>> services of SourceForge. Discussion of particular patch suggestions should
>> be done on the pythoncard-devel mailing list.
> -SNIP-
> 
> Generally speacking, i totally agree with you. Forking most times mean
> generate confusion and separe developers of an unique project in many
> parts, and it isn't good.
> 
> But in this case i don't see another solution. 15 days ago i've tryed to
> contact the developers on the -devel ml asking about the state of the
> project. Noone aswer to me. Same things happen to many other people
> asking for the state of the project many times in the past few years.
> 
> Hey, read, i say "years"!.
> 
> Also, from 2004 to today there are only few commits in the CVS repo,
> most of which are just very little bugfixes. And the latest commit have
> more than 1 year.
> 
> In the mean time, many peoples on the mailing lists was trying to
> contribute with patches, code, suggestions. Why none of those posts was
> considered except very very very few ones and only some years ago by the
> developers? I don't say that someone kick te patches coming from users
> saying "hey, they are not well written" or "our policy can't accept
> those functions". I can't see any answer or consideration at all.
> 
> The problem isn't sourceforge or CVS instead of SVN. And i totally agree
> with you that continue the project where it is now shuld be a better
> thing. But it seem that the developers:
> 
>  - aren't interested in accepting contributions
>  - aren't interested in let pycard evolving
>  - don't consider users questions about the state of the project
> 
> This is why i want to fork it. Why i need to get pieces from different
> (many) web sites to have my pythoncard install "complete" as complete can be
> today with all contributions?
> 
> I don't want to fork an active project. I'm forking a "dead" one.
> 

Most of the work for this project was done by Kevin Altis - who has 
already replied in this thread. If you are keen on taking over the 
maintenance of this project I suggest your first course of action should 
be to attempt to talk to him.

If you don't get a satisfactory outcome from your conversation with him 
then I would suggest either creating another source code repository (as 
you have done - but a bit prematurely I feel) or transferring the 
ownership of the SourceForge project to new maintainers who will be 
slightly more active than Kevin has been for the last four or so years.

FWIW, I believe that I still have maintainer rights on the SourceForge 
project and may be able to assist you if required.

Regards,
Andy
-- 
 From the desk of Andrew J Todd esq - http://www.halfcooked.com/

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