Re: Question about Sine and Shtoom

Hi Glyph. Thank you for your reply. Does this mean that Shtoom is still 
active? I had been interested in just experimenting with Sine and 
Shtoom's soft phone if it works. Many thanks.

Regards,
David

[email protected] wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Jun 2006 21:54:39 -0300, David Pratt <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Sine appears to incorporate many parts of Shtoom. Can you advise 
>> whether Shtoom is inactive at this point and being replaced with Sine. 
>> Also Sine is MIT where Shtoom appears to be LGPL. Is it just that 
>> Shtoom has not been updated with the MIT license since components 
>> appear to be MIT and code is out of step. Is it possible to use any of 
>> the older Shtoom under MIT?
> 
> It looks like we may not have documented something properly.  As far as 
> I know, the portions of Sine which were derived from Shtoom have 
> retained their LGPL license.  Shtoom is copyright Anthony Baxter, Sine 
> (the new portion, anyway) is copyright Divmod, Inc.
> 
> So, no, it's not even possible to use the new Sine code under the MIT 
> license, sorry.  Anthony chose this license deliberately because he does 
> a lot of work with proprietary SIP stacks that get a lot of things 
> wrong, and he didn't want it to be possible to subvert the maintenance 
> of the SIP stack and start maintaining it privately.  Keep in mind that 
> it is the *L*GPL though; you can invoke Shtoom (or Sine) from your own 
> programs and use it as a library and the license should not affect you.
> 
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