Python-spe-users digest, Vol 1 #31 - 4 msgs
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Send Python-spe-users mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Python-spe-users digest..." _______________________________________________ http://pythonide.stani.be http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate _______________________________________________ Today's Topics: 1. RE: Python-spe-users digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg (Peter A. Schott) 2. RE: Python-spe-users digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg (Peter A. Schott) 3. RE: SPE 0.8.0.a released! (SPE Stani's Python Editor) (Peter A. Schott) 4. Re: python.exe - application error (Lawrence Gray) --__--__-- Message: 1 From: "Peter A. Schott" <paschott-/[email protected]> To: <python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:11:08 -0600 Subject: [spe-users] RE: Python-spe-users digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg Reply-To: [email protected] Get the following error on Win32 w/ 0.8.0.a using Python 2.4.2. Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 125, in ? ImportError: cannot import name INFO *** run_installscript: internal error 0xFFFFFFFF *** Don't know if it's important or not, but let me know what to send in if you need more information. --__--__-- Message: 2 From: "Peter A. Schott" <paschott-/[email protected]> To: <python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]>, <[email protected]> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:11:08 -0600 Subject: [spe-users] RE: Python-spe-users digest, Vol 1 #29 - 1 msg Reply-To: [email protected] Get the following error on Win32 w/ 0.8.0.a using Python 2.4.2. Traceback (most recent call last): File "<string>", line 125, in ? ImportError: cannot import name INFO *** run_installscript: internal error 0xFFFFFFFF *** Don't know if it's important or not, but let me know what to send in if you need more information. --__--__-- Message: 3 From: "Peter A. Schott" <paschott-/[email protected]> To: <python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:24:29 -0600 Subject: [spe-users] RE: SPE 0.8.0.a released! (SPE Stani's Python Editor) Reply-To: [email protected] Does this run something listing the contents of the startup folder when it starts? I see a listing of all of my base python scripts on startup - complete with path and filename. Thanks for your help. -Pete Schott -----Original Message----- Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:45:03 +0100 From: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]> To: python-spe-mac-tdrK/[email protected], python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected] Subject: [spe-users] SPE 0.8.0.a released! Reply-To: [email protected] Dear SPE users, Let me pre-announce SPE 0.8.0.a This is a major step forward for all platforms, especially for MacOS X. This new release brings you basic project management through workspaces (thanks to Thurston Stone), an improved sidebar and pydoc viewer. This is the first release which is also developed and tested on the Mac. If SPE is stable enough, I'll try to build SPE as an application for the Mac. This version aims stability, so please help to report and fix all bugs! The advertisements on SPE's websites generate a moderate, but necesssary income. From now on if you donate, you can ask me by email an ad-free, nice pdf version of the manual. I hope this will be a stimulation. :**New features**: - stability - workspaces to manage your projects - documentation viewer (pydoc) - smart indentation: dedent after break, return, etc... - realtime updating of sidebar: explore, todo & index - check source realtime for syntax errors (optional) - backup files (.py.bak) are now optional :**Bug fixes**: - all these mac bugs are fixed: + SPE crashes on close + preferences dialog: combobox bug + debug dialog: combobox bug + wxGlade won't launch + winPdb won't launch + 2x window menu bug + context menu bug + open & run in terminal emulator + pythonw debug message + spe script bug + exception when closing file + PyChecker :**Installation**: See http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual2.html There is now an update section for MacOS X! :**Contributors**: - Thurston Stone (workspaces) - Glenn Washburn (patches) - Henning Hraban Ramm (Mac support) - Kay Fricke (Mac support) - Stefan Csomor (wxMac support) - and many more... :**Donations**: Special thanks to Richard Brown of Dartware for starting the fund raising campaign of the mini-mac for SPE. A lot of the donations below are done specifically for this purpose. Impressive that the smallest user base of SP= E generated generously the largest donations ever. Many thanks. Maybe it's time now for Window and Linux users to catch up! - Dartware (250 euro) - Rick Thomas (161 euro) - Brian Myers (100 euro) - Advanced Concepts AG (50 euro) - Ernesto Costa (50 euro) - Henning Hraban Ramm (50 euro) - Peter Koppatz (50 euro) - Kevin Murphy (50 euro) - Stefano Morandi (50 euro) - Kenneth McDonald (40 euro) - Barrett Smith (25 euro) - Irakli Nadareishvili (20 euro) - Jonathan Roadley-Battin (20 euro) - Brendan Simons (15 euro) - Edwin Ellis (15 euro) - Ian Ozsvald (15 euro) - Michael Smith (15 euro) - Eduardo Gonzalez (10 euro) - Phil Hargett (10 euro) - David Diskin (5 euro) Thanks for this generous support! Stani -- http://pythonide.stani.be http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html ------=_Part_18874_18523400.1133045103933 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Dear SPE users,<br> <br> Let me pre-announce SPE 0.8.0.a This is a major step forward for all platfo= rms, especially for MacOS X.<br> <br> This new release brings you basic project management through workspaces (thanks to Thurston Stone), an improved sidebar and pydoc viewer. This is the first release which is also developed and tested on the Mac. If SPE is stable enough, I'll try to build SPE as an application for the Mac. This version aims stability, so please help to report and fix all bugs!<br> <br> The advertisements on SPE's websites generate a moderate, but necesssary income. From now on if you donate, you can ask me by email an ad-free, nice pdf version of the manual. I hope this will be a stimulati= on.<br> <br> :**New features**:<br> <br> - stability<br> - workspaces to manage your projects<br> - documentation viewer (pydoc)<br> - smart indentation: dedent after break, return, etc...<br> - realtime updating of sidebar: explore, todo &amp; index<br> - check source realtime for syntax errors (optional)<br> - backup files (.py.bak) are now optional<br> <br> :**Bug fixes**:<br> <br> - all these mac bugs are fixed:<br> <br> + SPE crashes on close<br> + preferences dialog: combobox bug<br> + debug dialog: combobox bug<br> + wxGlade won't launch<br> + winPdb won't launch<br> + 2x window menu bug<br> + context menu bug<br> + open &amp; run in terminal emulator<br> + pythonw debug message<br> + spe script bug<br> + exception when closing file<br> + PyChecker<br> <br> :**Installation**:<br> <br> See <a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual2.html">http://p= ythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual2.html</a> There is now an update secti= on for MacOS X!<br> <br> :**Contributors**:<br> <br> - Thurston Stone (workspaces)<br> - Glenn Washburn (patches)<br> - Henning Hraban Ramm (Mac support)<br> - Kay Fricke (Mac support)<br> - Stefan Csomor (wxMac support)<br> - and many more...<br> <br> :**Donations**:<br> <br> Special thanks to Richard Brown of Dartware for starting the fund raising campaign of the mini-mac for SPE. A lot of the donations below are done specifically for this purpose. Impressive that the smallest user base of SPE generated generously the largest donations ever. Many thanks. Maybe it's time now for Window and Linux users to catch up!<br> <br> - Dartware (250 euro)<br> - Rick Thomas (161 euro)<br> - Brian Myers (100 euro)<br> - Advanced Concepts AG (50 euro)<br> - Ernesto Costa (50 euro)<br> - Henning Hraban Ramm (50 euro)<br> - Peter Koppatz (50 euro)<br> - Kevin Murphy (50 euro)<br> - Stefano Morandi (50 euro)<br> - Kenneth McDonald (40 euro)<br> - Barrett Smith (25 euro)<br> - Irakli Nadareishvili (20 euro)<br> - Jonathan Roadley-Battin (20 euro)<br> - Brendan Simons (15 euro)<br> - Edwin Ellis (15 euro)<br> - Ian Ozsvald (15 euro)<br> - Michael Smith (15 euro)<br> - Eduardo Gonzalez (10 euro)<br> - Phil Hargett (10 euro)<br> - David Diskin (5 euro)<br> <br> Thanks for this generous support!<br> <br> Stani<br> <br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.stani.be</a><br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide. stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a> --__--__-- Message: 4 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:47:03 -0500 From: Lawrence Gray <lawrence.gray-F3m4/[email protected]> To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected] Subject: Re: [spe-users] python.exe - application error Reply-To: [email protected] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070506020705090504030809 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080208060303010601090900" --------------080208060303010601090900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote: > 1) Try to execute at the Python shell: > >>> from wxPython.wx import * > > If this gives an error, then probably something is wrong with your > wxPython installation or with your uninstallation of previous > versions. So you better ask this on the wxpython-user mailing list. > SPE itself doesn't have this problem as it always uses 'import wx'. Done. The same error still occurs (ImportError: No module named wx). I removed the current 2.6.1 version and found a 2.3.5 version that I also removed. I resintalled the 2.6.1 version again. The same error still occurs. I downloaded a new copy of the win installer for wxPython2.6.1 and installed that to no avail. The installation does not create a subdirectory '...wxPython/wx....' > > 2) wxGlade and XRCed are seperate tools from SPE. To proove that is > not a problem of SPE you can try to go to: > Windows Start Menu > Programs > WxPython2.6 Doc Demos and Tools > > Resource Editor > Does this start up? If it doesn't something is clearly wrong with your > wxPython installation. This is XRCed that SPE also calls. No, the resource editor does not start up even after all the resintallations. > > Can you verify these two issues? > > Stani Thanks for your help. I will pass this on to the wx-python mailing list as suggested. Lawrence Gray > > On 11/27/05, *Lawrence Gray* <lawrence.gray-F3m4/[email protected] > <mailto:lawrence.gray-F3m4/[email protected]>> wrote: > > _______________________________________________ > http://pythonide.stani.be > http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html > <http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html> > http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate > _______________________________________________ > SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote: > > > Hi Gregor, > > I'd say wait for SPE 0.8 which will probably released within a week. > > If you are impatient check out subversion. SPE 0.8 is much more > > stable. If you then still experience the same error, I would be very > > happy to fix it, but then I need more information. Especially > how to > > reproduce the error. So let me know if it will be solved or not with > > SPE 0.8... > > Stani > > > > PS More info on SPE 0.8: http://pythonide.stani.be/blog > <http://pythonide.stani.be/blog> > > > > On 11/25/05, *Gregorius Gede Wiranarada* <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> > wrote: > > > > _______________________________________________ > > http://pythonide.stani.be > > http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html > <http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html> > > <http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html> > > http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate > <http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate> > > _______________________________________________ > > hi, > > > > i've been learning to use the latest spe for 2 days. i am > very new > > to spe. > > many times i experience this same error in a pop up window > saying : > > > > python.exe - Application Error > > The instruction at "0x0000281a" referenced memory at > "0x0000281a". The > > memory could not be "read". > > Click OK to terminate the program. > > Click CACNCEL to debug the program. > > > > does anybody know how to handle this? it's very annoying. btw, i > > am using > > win 2000 server. thx > > > > regards, > > Gregor > > > > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > > > Dibuka pendaftaran Program Magister dan Double Degree > Pascasarjana > > UAJY > > (MM - MTF atau sebaliknya; M.Hum - MTF; M.Hum - MM; MTS. - MM). > > Penerimaan mahasiswa setiap Mei, September dan Januari. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Python-spe-users mailing list > > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > > <mailto:[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> > > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users > > < http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://pythonide.stani.be > > http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html > > <http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html> > > I have waited for SPE0.8.0a, downloaded and installed the windows > version and have the same problem I had with SPE0.7.5.f. > > When i try to activate wxGlade via Tools->Design a gui with > wxGlade.., I > get no response except the following errors > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "C:\Python24\lib\SITE-P~1\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\wxglade.py", > line 148, in > ? > run_main() > File "C:\Python24\lib\SITE-P~1\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\wxglade.py", > line 135, in > run_main > import main > File > "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\main.py", > line 9, in > ? > from wxPython.wx import * > ImportError: No module named wx > > > Also; when I try to run Tools->Design a GUI with XRC..., I get no > response except for the following errors > > Traceback (most recent call last): > File > "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\wx- > 2.6-msw-ansi\wx\tools\XRCed\xrced.py", > line 24, in ? > from globals import * > File > "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-ansi\wx\tools\XRCed\globals.py" > , line 7, in ? > from wxPython.wx import * > ImportError: No module named wx > > > wxPython2.6.1 is installed and works in conjunction with other > applications. > Using Python 2.4.1 on XP-SP2 > > I have also experienced the same application error that Gregorius > indicated, but I don't have the specifics at this moment. > > Any suggestions on how to proceed? > > *Thanks Lawrence Gray* > _______________________________________________ > Python-spe-users mailing list > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users > > > > > -- > http://pythonide.stani.be > http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html > <http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html> --------------080208060303010601090900 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote: <blockquote cite="mid2078a7ad0511271255g37fb7bc6p965cc7dddd6fb95d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" type="cite">1) Try to execute at the Python shell:<br> >>> from wxPython.wx import *<br> <br> If this gives an error, then probably something is wrong with your wxPython installation or with your uninstallation of previous versions. So you better ask this on the wxpython-user mailing list. SPE itself doesn't have this problem as it always uses 'import wx'. <br> </blockquote> Done. The same error still occurs (ImportError: No module named wx). I removed the current 2.6.1 version and found a 2.3.5 version that I also removed. I resintalled the 2.6.1 version again. The same error still occurs. I downloaded a new copy of the win installer for wxPython2.6.1 and installed that to no avail. The installation does not create a subdirectory '...wxPython/wx....' <br> <blockquote cite="mid2078a7ad0511271255g37fb7bc6p965cc7dddd6fb95d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" type="cite"><br> 2) wxGlade and XRCed are seperate tools from SPE. To proove that is not a problem of SPE you can try to go to:<br> Windows Start Menu > Programs > WxPython2.6 Doc Demos and Tools > Resource Editor<br> Does this start up? If it doesn't something is clearly wrong with your wxPython installation. This is XRCed that SPE also calls.<br> </blockquote> No, the resource editor does not start up even after all the resintallations.<br> <blockquote cite="mid2078a7ad0511271255g37fb7bc6p965cc7dddd6fb95d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" type="cite"><br> Can you verify these two issues?<br> <br> Stani<br> </blockquote> <br> Thanks for your help. I will pass this on to the wx-python mailing list as suggested.<br> <br> Lawrence Gray<br> <blockquote cite="mid2078a7ad0511271255g37fb7bc6p965cc7dddd6fb95d-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org" type="cite"> <br> <div><span class="gmail_quote">On 11/27/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Lawrence Gray</b> <<a href="mailto:lawrence.gray-F3m4/[email protected]">lawrence.gray-F3m4/[email protected]</a>> wrote:</span> <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">_______________________________________________<br> <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.stani.be</a><br> <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html </a><br> <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate">http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate</a> _______________________________________________<br> SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:<br> <br> > Hi Gregor,<br> > I'd say wait for SPE 0.8 which will probably released within a week.<br> > If you are impatient check out subversion. SPE 0.8 is much more<br> > stable. If you then still experience the same error, I would be very<br> > happy to fix it, but then I need more information. Especially how to <br> > reproduce the error. So let me know if it will be solved or not with<br> > SPE 0.8...<br> > Stani<br> ><br> > PS More info on SPE 0.8: <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/blog">http://pythonide.stani.be/blog </a><br> ><br> > On 11/25/05, *Gregorius Gede Wiranarada* <<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>>> wrote: <br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.stani.be</a><br> > <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html </a><br> > <<a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a>><br> > <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate">http://pythonide.stani.be/blog/sm_donate </a><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > hi,<br> ><br> > i've been learning to use the latest spe for 2 days. i am very new<br> > to spe.<br> > many times i experience this same error in a pop up window saying : <br> ><br> > python.exe - Application Error<br> > The instruction at "0x0000281a" referenced memory at "0x0000281a". The<br> > memory could not be "read".<br> > Click OK to terminate the program. <br> > Click CACNCEL to debug the program.<br> ><br> > does anybody know how to handle this? it's very annoying. btw, i<br> > am using<br> > win 2000 server. thx<br> ><br> > regards,<br> > Gregor <br> ><br> > _______________________________________________________________________<br> ><br> > Dibuka pendaftaran Program Magister dan Double Degree Pascasarjana<br> > UAJY<br> > (MM - MTF atau sebaliknya; M.Hum - MTF; M.Hum - MM; MTS. - MM).<br> > Penerimaan mahasiswa setiap Mei, September dan Januari.<br> ><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > Python-spe-users mailing list <br> > <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>><br> > <a href="http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users">http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users</a><br> > <<a href="http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users"> http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users</a>><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.stani.be</a><br> > <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html"> http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a><br> > <<a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a>><br> <br> I have waited for SPE0.8.0a, downloaded and installed the windows <br> version and have the same problem I had with SPE0.7.5.f.<br> <br> When i try to activate wxGlade via Tools->Design a gui with wxGlade.., I<br> get no response except the following errors<br> <br> Traceback (most recent call last): <br> File "C:\Python24\lib\SITE-P~1\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\wxglade.py",<br> line 148, in<br> ?<br> run_main()<br> File "C:\Python24\lib\SITE-P~1\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\wxglade.py",<br> line 135, in<br> run_main<br> import main<br> File "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\_spe\plugins\wxGlade\main.py",<br> line 9, in<br> ?<br> from wxPython.wx import *<br> ImportError: No module named wx <br> <br> <br> Also; when I try to run Tools->Design a GUI with XRC..., I get no<br> response except for the following errors<br> <br> Traceback (most recent call last):<br> File<br> "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\wx- 2.6-msw-ansi\wx\tools\XRCed\xrced.py",<br> line 24, in ?<br> from globals import *<br> File<br> "C:\Python24\Lib\site-packages\wx-2.6-msw-ansi\wx\tools\XRCed\globals.py"<br> , line 7, in ? <br> from wxPython.wx import *<br> ImportError: No module named wx<br> <br> <br> wxPython2.6.1 is installed and works in conjunction with other applications.<br> Using Python 2.4.1 on XP-SP2<br> <br> I have also experienced the same application error that Gregorius <br> indicated, but I don't have the specifics at this moment.<br> <br> Any suggestions on how to proceed?<br> <br> *Thanks Lawrence Gray*<br> _______________________________________________<br> Python-spe-users mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br> <a href="http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users">http://lists.berlios.de/mailman/listinfo/python-spe-users</a> <br> </blockquote> </div> <br> <br clear="all"> <br> -- <br> <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.stani.be</a><br> <a href="http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html </a></blockquote> <br> <br> </body> </html> --------------080208060303010601090900-- --------------070506020705090504030809 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=utf-8; name="lawrence.gray.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="lawrence.gray.vcf" begin:vcard fn:Lawrence Gray n:Gray;Lawrence org:L. 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