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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: cpu use (Michele Petrazzo)
   2. Re: cpu use (SPE Stani's Python Editor)
   3. Re: SPE Issues - 0.8.1c (SPE Stani's Python Editor)
   4. Re: SPE Issues - 0.8.1c (Fuzzyman)
   5. Re: SPE Issues - 0.8.1c (SPE Stani's Python Editor)
   6. Re: cpu use (SPE Stani's Python Editor)

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:52:01 +0100
From: Michele Petrazzo <[email protected]>
To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] cpu use
Reply-To: [email protected]

SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
>> Hi spe  users, I'm trying to use the last version found on berinos
>> (why it's so hard to update from svn?, I have to re-download the
>> tar.gz every time! But this is another problem :) )
> 
> Why is it a problem? The explanation about the SVN repositry is here:
>  http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=4161 But you should use
> this path instead (maybe that's the problem): 
> svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk

Yes this is one, but now:

michele:/opt/spe# svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk
svn: Failed to add directory 'trunk/_spe': object of the same name
already exists

This is true, because I have an "old" version that I want to update...

> 
>> When I wrote some docstrings (and also the code) I see that the cpu
>>  usage are always at 100%.


> Thanks, I added this to the FAQ. The answer is:

<-cut->

Yes now it work. I leave only the "auto-completion" and now it's
speed-up all the work.

>> Another little question: can you add the useful feature, like that 
>> present on Boa, that show the docstring when press
>> Ctrl-Shift-Space. In spe this happen only when I wrote "(", but if
>> I want to see another time the docstring, I can't!
> 
> File this as a feature request. A trick for now is to type "("
> 

Done.

> Stani --

Thanks,
Michele

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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:50:47 +0100
From: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]>
To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] cpu use
Reply-To: [email protected]

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On 12/15/05, Michele Petrazzo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
> >> Hi spe  users, I'm trying to use the last version found on berinos
> >> (why it's so hard to update from svn?, I have to re-download the
> >> tar.gz every time! But this is another problem :) )
> >
> > Why is it a problem? The explanation about the SVN repositry is here:
> >  http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=3D4161 But you should use
> > this path instead (maybe that's the problem):
> > svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk
>
> Yes this is one, but now:
>
> michele:/opt/spe# svn co svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk
> svn: Failed to add directory 'trunk/_spe': object of the same name
> already exists
>
> This is true, because I have an "old" version that I want to update...


Well, kick away everything and start from scratch. If it doesn't help,
please ask it then on the mailing list of your svn client, as I won't be
able to help you more. Maybe another SPE user knows. I never ran into
problems with SVN.

>
> >> When I wrote some docstrings (and also the code) I see that the cpu
> >>  usage are always at 100%.
>
>
> > Thanks, I added this to the FAQ. The answer is:
>
> <-cut->
>
> Yes now it work. I leave only the "auto-completion" and now it's
> speed-up all the work.


Great! How much is the effect of leaving the sidebar on realtime? Was it
still a big issue?

>> Another little question: can you add the useful feature, like that
> >> present on Boa, that show the docstring when press
> >> Ctrl-Shift-Space. In spe this happen only when I wrote "(", but if
> >> I want to see another time the docstring, I can't!
> >
> > File this as a feature request. A trick for now is to type "("
> >
>
> Done.


Thanks!

Stani

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<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 12/15/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sen=
dername">Michele Petrazzo</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michele.petrazzo@unipex=
.it">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"g=
mail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt=
 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:<br>&gt;&gt; Hi spe&nbsp;&nbsp;users, I'm t=
rying to use the last version found on berinos<br>&gt;&gt; (why it's so har=
d to update from svn?, I have to re-download the<br>&gt;&gt; tar.gz every t=
ime! But this is another problem :) )
<br>&gt;<br>&gt; Why is it a problem? The explanation about the SVN reposit=
ry is here:<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;<a href=3D"http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?=
group_id=3D4161">http://developer.berlios.de/svn/?group_id=3D4161</a> But y=
ou should use
<br>&gt; this path instead (maybe that's the problem):<br>&gt; <a href=3D"s=
vn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk">svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk=
</a><br><br>Yes this is one, but now:<br><br>michele:/opt/spe# svn co <a hr=
ef=3D"svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk">
svn://svn.berlios.de/python/spe/trunk</a><br>svn: Failed to add directory '=
trunk/_spe': object of the same name<br>already exists<br><br>This is true,=
 because I have an &quot;old&quot; version that I want to update...</blockq=
uote>
<div><br>
Well, kick away everything and start from scratch. If it doesn't help,
please ask it then on the mailing list of your svn client, as I won't
be able to help you more. Maybe another SPE user knows. I never ran
into problems with SVN.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt;<br=
>&gt;&gt; When I wrote some docstrings (and also the code) I see that the c=
pu
<br>&gt;&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;usage are always at 100%.<br><br><br>&gt; Thanks, I=
 added this to the FAQ. The answer is:<br><br>&lt;-cut-&gt;<br><br>Yes now =
it work. I leave only the &quot;auto-completion&quot; and now it's<br>speed=
-up all the work.
</blockquote><div><br>
Great! How much is the effect of leaving the sidebar on realtime? Was it st=
ill a big issue?<br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt;&gt=
; Another little question: can you add the useful feature, like that<br>&gt=
;&gt; present on Boa, that show the docstring when press
<br>&gt;&gt; Ctrl-Shift-Space. In spe this happen only when I wrote &quot;(=
&quot;, but if<br>&gt;&gt; I want to see another time the docstring, I can'=
t!<br>&gt;<br>&gt; File this as a feature request. A trick for now is to ty=
pe &quot;(&quot;
<br>&gt;<br><br>Done.</blockquote><div><br>
Thanks! <br>
</div><br>
Stani<br>
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ni.be</a><br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">=
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:57:59 +0100
From: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]>
To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] SPE Issues - 0.8.1c
Cc: mike-SGbQuXsgMABWk0Htik3J/[email protected]
Reply-To: [email protected]

On 12/15/05, Michael Foord <mike-SGbQuXsgMABWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
> I've just installed SPE 0.8.1c on my windoze machine. (ActivePython
> 2.4.2, XP SP2, wxPython 2.6.10)
>
> I see the new way of running files. I can see how it *might* be an
> advantage - but I can also see how (when doing quick test-run-debug
> cycles), it now takes me 3 or more key presses to test a script instead
> of just one !! :-(
> This is the main reason I rejected the PyWin editor, but now SPE takes
> *more* keypresses.
>
> F9 now runs the program in a terminal instead of the shell.
>
> That means that to run a program I now have to press F9, then hit run, then
> manually exit the terminal (assuming I want to actually see the output -
> rather than just have the terminal window vanish).
>
> I used to just hit F9. :-(
> I know I can hit shift-F9 and not have to hit one of the buttons - but
> it's hardly more convenient !
>
> It feels like SPE might be subject to freeping creaturism ! (adding
> extra features to something that already works very well...)
>
> (Redirect output to SPE shell doesn't seem to work - and why *should* I
> have to hit shift F9 when I used to be able to hit just F9)

I have to disagree totally with you. Maybe you are reacting too fast.

Your first problem is that you don't like to configure the keyboard
shortcuts. Why you don't configure them? SPE's keyboard shortcuts are
completely customizable. At the moment it can't yet be done through a
nice dialog box (on my todo list, you're always invited to help), but
it is possible through a simple python dictionary. The manual says at
3.8 Customize:
--
Keyboard shortcuts
If you want to change the default keyboard shortcuts, open a shortcut
file (*.py) _spe/shortcuts/shortcuts.py and adapt it to your own
taste.  Save it with another name and fill in the name in preferences
dialog box (General>Keyboard shortcuts), of course without the '.py'
extension. For example, this is the shortcut file "Macintosh.py":

>"""Mac shortcuts for SPE"""
>
>keys = {
>    'Save As'       : 'Ctrl+Shift+S',
>    'Redo'          : 'Ctrl+Shift+Z',
>    'Find Next'     : 'Ctrl+G', # not very logical, but usual on the Mac
>    'Go to line'    : 'Ctrl+J', # "Jump"
>}

Backup this file and copy it back when you reinstall SPE. To make this
possible through a dialog box, is on the todo list. You are always
invited to help with this.
--

Your second problem is how files are run in SPE. Well, luckily we have
the same background. I also didn't like PythonWin for that. However I
was getting tired of getting emails all the time of people who were
trying to run wxPython applications or infinite loops inside SPE
complaining that SPE was blocking. I tried to explain again and again
that these programs should be run externally and had never the
intention to change the run system. But too much is too much. So I had
to reconsider, as most of SPE users had a different vision on running
files.

The new version of SPE now makes a distinction between 'execute in
shell' and 'run'. What you want to do is execute your code in the
shell. There are two options:
- if text is selected, only selected text will be executed
- nothing is selected, the whole file will be executed -> this is the
old run behaviour. Do it at your own risk and don't complain if you
start an infinitive loop.

You might not like the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+E, but again you can modify
it to F9. I can add a toolbar button, if that would help.

BTW, a lot of SPE users did luckily appreciate the new run system.

> It also looks like it doesn't look like it prompt you to save before
> running like it used to.
> (Even if the correct preference is set).
>
>
> Another request - can the html manual be included in the distribution,
> and the 'manual' menu option launch the local one instead of the online
> one ? I don't have internet access at work (censored) or home (no
> connection) - so I effectively have no manual.

As you probably know developing a program like SPE takes a lot of
time. Users don't always realize, but I can only afford this through
the ads displayed on SPE's website and by individual donations.
Really. Anyone who donates or contributes to SPE can get the manual as
a pdf on the condition of not redistributing it. You get SPE for free,
so I think it's only fair to ask for a donation if you want the
manual. As the author of Movable Python you contribute to SPE, so you
can get the manual if you don't redistribute it (eg bundling it with
Movable Python). You would even make me more happy if you would
comment it and review it for my not native english. Thanks!

One last remark: at the moment there is a bug in the debugger, which
makes it fail to catch unhandled exceptions for Python 2.4.2. It works
fine for Python 2.4.1. Nir Aides, the author of WinPdb, is working on
it.

I hope this answers you worries,

Stani

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:17:16 +0000
From: Fuzzyman <[email protected]>
To: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]>,
   python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] SPE Issues - 0.8.1c
Reply-To: [email protected]

SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
> On 12/15/05, Michael Foord <mike-SGbQuXsgMABWk0Htik3J/[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>I've just installed SPE 0.8.1c on my windoze machine. (ActivePython
>>2.4.2, XP SP2, wxPython 2.6.10)
>>
>>I see the new way of running files. I can see how it *might* be an
>>advantage - but I can also see how (when doing quick test-run-debug
>>cycles), it now takes me 3 or more key presses to test a script instead
>>of just one !! :-(
>>This is the main reason I rejected the PyWin editor, but now SPE takes
>>*more* keypresses.
>>
>>F9 now runs the program in a terminal instead of the shell.
>>
>>That means that to run a program I now have to press F9, then hit run, then
>>manually exit the terminal (assuming I want to actually see the output -
>>rather than just have the terminal window vanish).
>>
>>I used to just hit F9. :-(
>>I know I can hit shift-F9 and not have to hit one of the buttons - but
>>it's hardly more convenient !
>>
>>It feels like SPE might be subject to freeping creaturism ! (adding
>>extra features to something that already works very well...)
>>
>>(Redirect output to SPE shell doesn't seem to work - and why *should* I
>>have to hit shift F9 when I used to be able to hit just F9)
> 
> 
> I have to disagree totally with you. Maybe you are reacting too fast.
> 

Maybe (well - probably). :-)

> Your first problem is that you don't like to configure the keyboard
> shortcuts. Why you don't configure them? SPE's keyboard shortcuts are
> completely customizable. At the moment it can't yet be done through a
> nice dialog box (on my todo list, you're always invited to help), but
> it is possible through a simple python dictionary. The manual says at
> 3.8 Customize:
> --
> Keyboard shortcuts
> If you want to change the default keyboard shortcuts, open a shortcut
> file (*.py) _spe/shortcuts/shortcuts.py and adapt it to your own
> taste.  Save it with another name and fill in the name in preferences
> dialog box (General>Keyboard shortcuts), of course without the '.py'
> extension. For example, this is the shortcut file "Macintosh.py":
> 
> 
>>"""Mac shortcuts for SPE"""
>>
>>keys = {
>>   'Save As'       : 'Ctrl+Shift+S',
>>   'Redo'          : 'Ctrl+Shift+Z',
>>   'Find Next'     : 'Ctrl+G', # not very logical, but usual on the Mac
>>   'Go to line'    : 'Ctrl+J', # "Jump"
>>}
> 
> 
> Backup this file and copy it back when you reinstall SPE. To make this
> possible through a dialog box, is on the todo list. You are always
> invited to help with this.

I'll try this, sounds straightforward enough. Thanks

> --
> 
> Your second problem is how files are run in SPE. Well, luckily we have
> the same background. I also didn't like PythonWin for that. However I
> was getting tired of getting emails all the time of people who were
> trying to run wxPython applications or infinite loops inside SPE
> complaining that SPE was blocking. I tried to explain again and again
> that these programs should be run externally and had never the
> intention to change the run system. But too much is too much. So I had
> to reconsider, as most of SPE users had a different vision on running
> files.
> 
> The new version of SPE now makes a distinction between 'execute in
> shell' and 'run'. What you want to do is execute your code in the
> shell. There are two options:
> - if text is selected, only selected text will be executed
> - nothing is selected, the whole file will be executed -> this is the
> old run behaviour. Do it at your own risk and don't complain if you
> start an infinitive loop.
> 
> You might not like the shortcut Ctrl+Shift+E, but again you can modify
> it to F9. I can add a toolbar button, if that would help.
> 

I didn't know about the shortcut "Ctrl+Shift+E". If this maintains the
*old* behaviour then my desire is fully satisfied - and the added option
of the new behaviour is just a bonus. :-)

> BTW, a lot of SPE users did luckily appreciate the new run system.
> 

Sure - I can see when it might be useful (I've sometimes manually
fiddled with ``sys.argv`` to simulate the command line before).

For quick debug-run cycles it's more of a nuisance though. Horses for
courses (English expression !)

> 
>>It also looks like it doesn't look like it prompt you to save before
>>running like it used to.
>>(Even if the correct preference is set).
>>

Is this bug report correct - or am I missing something ?

>>
>>Another request - can the html manual be included in the distribution,
>>and the 'manual' menu option launch the local one instead of the online
>>one ? I don't have internet access at work (censored) or home (no
>>connection) - so I effectively have no manual.
> 
> 
> As you probably know developing a program like SPE takes a lot of
> time. Users don't always realize, but I can only afford this through
> the ads displayed on SPE's website and by individual donations.

You can keep the ads in the distributed html.

> Really. Anyone who donates or contributes to SPE can get the manual as
> a pdf on the condition of not redistributing it. You get SPE for free,
> so I think it's only fair to ask for a donation if you want the
> manual. As the author of Movable Python you contribute to SPE, so you
> can get the manual if you don't redistribute it (eg bundling it with
> Movable Python). You would even make me more happy if you would
> comment it and review it for my not native english. Thanks!
> 

I've saved the manual from the website now. If you have an html version
without the ads then I'd love a copy - but I'm not into PDF.

I will read the docs and suggest changes *if necessary*. The bits I've
looked at seem ok.


> One last remark: at the moment there is a bug in the debugger, which
> makes it fail to catch unhandled exceptions for Python 2.4.2. It works
> fine for Python 2.4.1. Nir Aides, the author of WinPdb, is working on
> it.
> 

I still don't use the debugger (personally) - although it's almost
certainly worth the time investment. I find print statements are my most
powerful ally in debugging ;-)

> I hope this answers you worries,
> 
> Stani
> 
> PS Please subscribe to the mailing list, if you want to post here.
> 

I am, I got two copies of this email - I don't know what has happened ??
I'll go to the webpage and sort out my subscription.

All the best,

Fuzzyman
http://www.voidspace.org.uk/python/index.shtml


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:12:52 +0100
From: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]>
To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] SPE Issues - 0.8.1c
Reply-To: [email protected]

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On 12/15/05, Fuzzyman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:
>
>
> >
> >>It also looks like it doesn't look like it prompt you to save before
> >>running like it used to.
> >>(Even if the correct preference is set).
> >>
>
> Is this bug report correct - or am I missing something ?


I fixed it now, you were right.

>>Another request - can the html manual be included in the distribution,
> >>and the 'manual' menu option launch the local one instead of the online
> >>one ? I don't have internet access at work (censored) or home (no
> >>connection) - so I effectively have no manual.

> As you probably know developing a program like SPE takes a lot of
> > time. Users don't always realize, but I can only afford this through
> > the ads displayed on SPE's website and by individual donations.
>
> You can keep the ads in the distributed html.


Google Adsense only works on pages hosted on the net. So this makes no
sense. Again, if someone donates as little as 1 euro (but please a bit
more), they can have the manual. Maybe I should make this more visible.

> As the author of Movable Python you contribute to SPE, so you
> > can get the manual if you don't redistribute it (eg bundling it with
> > Movable Python). You would even make me more happy if you would
> > comment it and review it for my not native english. Thanks!
> >
>
> I've saved the manual from the website now. If you have an html version
> without the ads then I'd love a copy - but I'm not into PDF.


You have it now.

I will read the docs and suggest changes *if necessary*. The bits I've
> looked at seem ok.


Thanks!

Stani
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On 12/15/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Fuzzyman</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mail=
to:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<div>=
<span class=3D"gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; p=
adding-left: 1ex;">
SPE Stani's Python Editor wrote:<br><br><br>&gt;<br>&gt;&gt;It also looks l=
ike it doesn't look like it prompt you to save before<br>&gt;&gt;running li=
ke it used to.<br>&gt;&gt;(Even if the correct preference is set).<br>&gt;&=
gt;
<br><br>Is this bug report correct - or am I missing something ?</blockquot=
e><div><br>
I fixed it now, you were right. <br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt;&gt=
;Another request - can the html manual be included in the distribution,<br>
&gt;&gt;and the 'manual' menu option launch the local one instead of the on=
line<br>&gt;&gt;one ? I don't have internet access at work (censored) or ho=
me (no<br>&gt;&gt;connection) - so I effectively have no manual.</blockquot=
e>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, =
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; As you proba=
bly know developing a program like SPE takes a lot of<br>&gt; time. Users d=
on't always realize, but I can only afford this through
<br>&gt; the ads displayed on SPE's website and by individual donations.<br=
><br>You can keep the ads in the distributed html.</blockquote><div><br>
Google Adsense only works on pages hosted on the net. So this makes no
sense. Again, if someone donates as little as 1 euro (but please a bit
more), they can have the manual. Maybe I should make this more visible.&nbs=
p;</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px sol=
id rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">&gt; =
As the author of Movable Python you contribute to SPE, so you
<br>&gt; can get the manual if you don't redistribute it (eg bundling it wi=
th<br>&gt; Movable Python). You would even make me more happy if you would<=
br>&gt; comment it and review it for my not native english. Thanks!<br>
&gt;<br><br>I've saved the manual from the website now. If you have an html=
 version<br>without the ads then I'd love a copy - but I'm not into PDF.</b=
lockquote><div><br>
You have it now.<br>
</div><br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid=
 rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I will =
read the docs and suggest changes *if necessary*. The bits I've<br>looked a=
t seem ok.
</blockquote><div><br>
Thanks! <br>
<br>
Stani</div></div>-- <br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be">http://python=
ide.stani.be</a><br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual=
.html">http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a>

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:46:44 +0100
From: "SPE Stani's Python Editor" <[email protected]>
To: python-spe-users-tdrK/[email protected]
Subject: Re: [spe-users] cpu use
Reply-To: [email protected]

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On 12/15/05, SPE Stani's Python Editor <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On 12/15/05, Michele Petrazzo <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > >> Another little question: can you add the useful feature, like that
> > >> present on Boa, that show the docstring when press
> > >> Ctrl-Shift-Space. In spe this happen only when I wrote "(", but if
> > >> I want to see another time the docstring, I can't!
> >
> >
Implemented for SPE 0.8.1.c as  Edit>Show docstring ;-)

Stani

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On 12/15/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">SPE Stani's Python Editor</b> &l=
t;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:<div><span class=3D"gmail_quote"></span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_qu=
ote" style=3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0p=
t 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
On 12/15/05, <b class=3D"gmail_sendername">Michele Petrazzo</b> &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" onclick=3D"return =
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">[email protected]<img class=
=3D"TargetAlertIcon" src=3D"chrome://targetalert/content/skin/new.png">
</a>&gt; wrote:<div><span class=3D"q"><span class=3D"gmail_quote"></span></=
span><span class=3D"q"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"border-le=
ft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: =
1ex;">
&gt;&gt; Another little question: can you add the useful feature, like that=
<br>&gt;&gt; present on Boa, that show the docstring when press
<br>&gt;&gt; Ctrl-Shift-Space. In spe this happen only when I wrote &quot;(=
&quot;, but if<br>&gt;&gt; I want to see another time the docstring, I can'=
t!<br><br>

</blockquote></span></div></blockquote><div><br>
Implemented for SPE 0.8.1.c as&nbsp; Edit&gt;Show docstring ;-)<br>
</div><br>Stani<br>
</div><br>-- <br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be">http://pythonide.sta=
ni.be</a><br><a href=3D"http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html">=
http://pythonide.stani.be/manual/html/manual.html</a>

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