Re: The Python 2.7 Plan

Glyph <[email protected]> Mon, 16 Dec 2019 07:10:20 -0800
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> On Dec 11, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone =
<[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 4:06 PM Wilfredo S=C3=A1nchez Vega =
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>   With Python 2.7 support dropping in a matter of weeks, I'd like to =
pick up from hawkowl's thread back in March about Python 2.7 support for =
Twisted.
>=20
> Despite the widely circulated January 1 2020 date, it seems that =
python-dev nevertheless plans to make a Python 2.7 release in April 2020 =
- https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/ =
<https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/>
>=20
> This is not to say the questions here don't need answering or that =
there isn't some urgency at this point, but it seems like the January 1 =
date is essentially an arbitrary deadline without a clear connection to =
the support status of CPython 2.7.
>=20
> Or does anyone know a different way to reconcile these apparently =
conflicting dates?

This is just speculative, just based on my own historical understanding =
of python-dev's process and somewhat informal definition of "support", =
but I believe the sentence "Support officially stops January 1 2020, but =
the final release will occur after that date." means something like "We =
will accept new bug reports and may start fixing things until January 1; =
however, the fixes in progress as of that date will be completed and =
released in a final version some time later."

When we EOL py27 support for Twisted we should probably do something =
similar so anyone who wants to get a pending fix out as part of the last =
27-supporting release has a window to do that.

-g


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line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Dec =
11, 2019, at 1:16 PM, Jean-Paul Calderone &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 4:06 PM =
Wilfredo S=C3=A1nchez Vega &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" =
class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid =
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">&nbsp; With Python 2.7 support =
dropping in a matter of weeks, I'd like to pick up from hawkowl's thread =
back in March about Python 2.7 support for Twisted.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Despite the widely circulated January 1 2020 date, it seems =
that python-dev nevertheless plans to make a Python 2.7 release in April =
2020 -&nbsp;<a href=3D"https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/" =
class=3D"">https://www.python.org/dev/peps/pep-0373/</a></div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">This is not to say the =
questions here don't need answering or that there isn't some urgency at =
this point, but it seems like the January 1 date is essentially an =
arbitrary deadline without a clear connection to the support status of =
CPython 2.7.</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Or =
does anyone know a different way to reconcile&nbsp;these apparently =
conflicting dates?</div></div></div></div></blockquote><br =
class=3D""></div><div>This is just speculative, just based on my own =
historical understanding of python-dev's process and somewhat informal =
definition of "support", but I believe the sentence "Support officially =
stops January 1 2020, but the final release will occur after that date." =
means something like "We will accept new bug reports and may <i =
class=3D"">start</i> fixing things until January 1; however, the fixes =
in progress as of that date will be completed and released in a final =
version some time later."</div><div><br class=3D""></div><div>When we =
EOL py27 support for Twisted we should probably do something similar so =
anyone who wants to get a pending fix out as part of the last =
27-supporting release has a window to do that.</div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div>-g</div><br class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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