Re: Visualpython-users Digest, Vol 80, Issue 1

Scott Harris <scott-KOQ3cyhuqtfta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org> Tue, 12 Feb 2013 13:05:41 -0700
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I too use EPD. On my machine, the VPython installer doesn't detect EPD =
and won't install. I'm on OS X 10.8.2

This is my python:

Enthought Python Distribution (EPD) free version -- www.enthought.com
Version: 7.3-2 (32-bit)
(type 'upgrade' or see www.enthought.com/epd/upgrade to get the full =
EPD)

Python 2.7.3 |EPD_free 7.3-2 (32-bit)| (default, Apr 12 2012, 11:28:34)=20=

[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493)] on darwin
Type "credits", "demo" or "enthought" for more information.


Getting VPython to work with EPD would be great.

Thanks,
-Scott
Scott Harris
scott-KOQ3cyhuqtfta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org
37 Doe Trail POB 1278
Nederland CO 80466-1278
720/231-6533 (cell)
303/258-0142 (office)

On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Adam O Hausknecht <[email protected]> =
wrote:

> Hi,
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> I have just attempted to install VPython 6.0.2 on a Intel Core I7 =
MacBoook Pro running Mac OS 10.8.2 and
> get a message shown below:
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> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Python 2.7.3 (v2.7.3:70274d53c1dd, Apr  9 2012, 20:52:43)=20
> [GCC 4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin
> Type "copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more information.
> >>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RESTART =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> >>>=20
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> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "Untitled", line 1
>     from visual import *
>   File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/visual/__init__.py", line 1
>     from .visual_all import *
>   File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/visual/visual_all.py", line 1
>     from vis import version
>   File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/vis/__init__.py", line 3
>     from .cvisual import (vector, dot, mag, mag2, norm, cross, rotate,
> ImportError: =
dlopen(/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/sit=
e-packages/vis/cvisual.so, 2): no suitable image found.  Did find:
> 	=
/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-packa=
ges/vis/cvisual.so: mach-o, but wrong architecture
> =
--------------------------------------------------------------------------=
--------------------------------------------
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> The program I tried is :
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> -------------------------------
> from visual import *
> sphere()
> ----------------------------
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> Also, a VPythom folder with sample programs is NOT created. Thus, the =
"visual" help item on VIDLE'S help menu also fails.
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> Finally, I also use Enthought's Python distribution for scientific =
computing. Could these interfere with each other?
> Can Visual Python be installed within Enthought's distribution? I =
think Enthought uses a Numpy 1.6x.
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> Regards and thanks for all your work!
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> Adam Hausknecht
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> Professor Adam O. Hausknecht
> Department of Mathematics
> UMass Dartmouth
> 285 Old Westport Road
> North Dartmouth, MA 02747
> Office: Arts and Sciences 394B
> Email: [email protected]
> Phone: 508-999-8322
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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. On windows-8 tablet (Shin-ichiro Tanaka / ?????)
>    2. New contributed program (Bruce Sherwood)
>    3. (no subject) (Joel Kahn)
>    4. VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,        and new event =
handling
>       capabilities (Bruce Sherwood)
>    5. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,        and new event
>       handling capabilities (Bruce Sherwood)
>    6. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,        and new event
>       handling capabilities (Bruce Sherwood)
>    7. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,        and new event
>       handling capabilities (Bruce Sherwood)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2013 15:34:07 +0900
> From: Shin-ichiro Tanaka / ?????         =
<stanaka-uy5Ei0ICS76UKefhbswAYO0/[email protected]>
> Subject: [Visualpython-users] On windows-8 tablet
> To: visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org
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> Hi,
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> I have been using Vpython on Windows 7 and XP machines, either
> with EPD(enthght python disribution) and Pythonxy distribution.
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> It is amazing. Then I installed Vpython(Ver 5.74 for win32 on=20
> python2.73) on an windows-8 tablet (ASUS ME400c, Atom Z2760,=20
> 2GByte memory). However, it does not work. The "Vypthon" window=20
> opens but it hangs up.
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> Does anyone know how to do with it? I keenly would like to show
> the physical simulation to students on my physics lecture.=20
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> Thanks in advance.
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> ----------------------------------------------
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> Shin-ichiro Tanaka "?????"
> Associate professor
> The institute of Scientific and Industrial Research, Osaka University
> TEL:06-6879-8491, FAX:06-6879-8494
> ?????????????567-0047 ??????????
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:28:47 -0700
> From: Bruce Sherwood <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Visualpython-users] New contributed program
> To: vpusers <visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
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> Owen Long has contributed an interesting program that displays the odd
> behavior of a book rotating in 3D space, now available in the =
Contributed
> section of vpython.org.
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> Because there are no torques acting on the book, the (vector) angular
> momentum does not change, but the (vector) angular velocity does =
change,
> and the visual effect is that the book tumbles in an unexpected way.
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> You can see this effect in the real world. Try flipping a book or a =
tennis
> racket in the air. You'll find that if the object rotates around its =
long
> axis or the axis perpendicular to the largest side, the rotation is =
stable.
> If however you flip it around the third axis, no matter how carefully =
you
> try to flip it exactly around that axis, you'll see that the object =
tumbles.
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> Bruce Sherwood
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> P.S. Steve Spicklemire and I believe that we're very close to the next
> release of the wxPython-based VPython 6. All that remains is some
> documentation and some cleanups of keyboard issues.
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> Subject: [Visualpython-users] (no subject)
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> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:24:42 -0700
> From: Bruce Sherwood <[email protected]>
> Subject: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,      =
  and
>         new event handling capabilities
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> Now available on the download pages at vpython.org is VPython 6.02, =
the
> product of a collaboration between Steve Spicklemire and me. This =
version
> is based on the cross-platform library wxPython. It has two powerful =
new
> features:
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> (1) You can put a VPython 3D display in a window that also has =
wxPython
> buttons, sliders, etc. that have a native look and feel on all =
platforms.
> See the new example program widgets.py. (We haven't experimented with
> automatic layout mechanisms provided by wxPython, which may require =
some
> revision of the new VPython.)
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> (2) In addition to the existing ways to handle mouse and keyboard =
events,
> there are powerful new "callback" mechanisms for handling events. =
Among
> much else, this provides a way to catch keyboard release events, which =
some
> users have wanted for a long time.
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> Our experience so far is that existing programs will run with VPython =
6.02,
> unless there is an animation loop that does not contain a rate() =
statement
> (which is now obligatory), and if you import graph or controls or
> filedialog you must first import visual or vis. We encourage you to =
try
> your programs and provide test cases that do not run properly even =
after
> making these two adaptations.
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> There is one known bug with old programs, which is that =
materials.rough and
> materials.marble do not display correctly on a Macintosh, and the =
cause is
> currently unknown.
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> There is one known bug with new programs, which is that pull-down =
menus (a
> new feature made possible thanks to wxPython) do not work on a =
Macintosh.
> This problem is partly understood, but there isn't yet a fix for the
> problem.
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> There is a likely bug on Linux, in that wxPython does not currently =
report
> window metrics such as the height of a menu bar. For that reason, at =
the
> moment these metrics are hard-coded and are likely to be wrong for =
some
> Linux or some window manager on some Linux. Please let us know about =
your
> experience in this regard.
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> Bruce Sherwood
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> P.S. At the start of every semester there is a big spike in VPython
> installer downloads due to the start of classes in which VPython is =
used.
> Last month there were about 10,000 downloads, and there were =
considerable
> charges for excess data transfer from the vpython.org web site. For =
that
> reason, the installers have been moved to sourceforge.net, which =
provides
> free downloads for open-source projects like VPython.
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> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:29:31 -0700
> From: Bruce Sherwood <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,
>         and new event handling capabilities
> To: vpusers <visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
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> I should add that VPython 6.02 works with 64-bit versions of Python on =
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:04:39 -0700
> From: Bruce Sherwood <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,
>         and new event handling capabilities
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> One other thing: There isn't a version of VPython 6 for Python 3.x =
because
> there isn't yet a Python 3.x version of wxPython, on which VPython 6 =
is
> based. The wxPython developers are actively working on a version for =
Python
> 3.x, but I don't know when it will be available.
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:59:58 -0700
> From: Bruce Sherwood <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, sliders,
>         and new event handling capabilities
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> My mistake. I had misunderstood the status of the "Phoenix" project, a
> rewrite of wxPython that can be used with Python 3. I just now tried =
using
> the Phoenix version, and after some very minor changes just about
> everything but labels worked (and that's probably easy to fix).
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> Bruce Sherwood
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> On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Bruce Sherwood =
<[email protected]>wrote:
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> > One other thing: There isn't a version of VPython 6 for Python 3.x =
because
> > there isn't yet a Python 3.x version of wxPython, on which VPython 6 =
is
> > based. The wxPython developers are actively working on a version for =
Python
> > 3.x, but I don't know when it will be available.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dus-ascii"><base href=3D"x-msg://265/"></head><body =
style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; =
-webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I too use EPD. On my machine, =
the VPython installer doesn't detect EPD and won't install. I'm on OS X =
10.8.2<div><br></div><div>This is my =
python:</div><div><br></div><div><div>Enthought Python Distribution =
(EPD) free version -- <a =
href=3D"http://www.enthought.com">www.enthought.com</a></div><div>Version:=
 7.3-2 (32-bit)</div><div>(type 'upgrade' or see <a =
href=3D"http://www.enthought.com/epd/upgrade">www.enthought.com/epd/upgrad=
e</a> to get the full EPD)</div><div><br></div><div>Python 2.7.3 =
|EPD_free 7.3-2 (32-bit)| (default, Apr 12 2012, =
11:28:34)&nbsp;</div><div>[GCC 4.0.1 (Apple Inc. build 5493)] on =
darwin</div><div>Type "credits", "demo" or "enthought" for more =
information.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Getting VPython to =
work with EPD would be =
great.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>-Scott</div><div>
<div>Scott Harris<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:scott-KOQ3cyhuqtfta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org">scott-KOQ3cyhuqtfta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org</a><=
br>37 Doe Trail POB 1278<br>Nederland CO 80466-1278<br>720/231-6533 =
(cell)<br>303/258-0142 (office)</div>

</div>
<br><div><div>On Feb 11, 2013, at 8:55 AM, Adam O Hausknecht &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote =
type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; =
font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; =
letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: =
-webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: =
normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div style=3D"font-family: arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14pt; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I have =
just attempted to install VPython 6.0.2 on a Intel Core I7 MacBoook Pro =
running Mac OS 10.8.2 and</div><div>get a message shown =
below:</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---------------------------=
------------------------------</div><div><div>Python 2.7.3 =
(v2.7.3:70274d53c1dd, Apr &nbsp;9 2012, 20:52:43)&nbsp;</div><div>[GCC =
4.2.1 (Apple Inc. build 5666) (dot 3)] on darwin</div><div>Type =
"copyright", "credits" or "license()" for more =
information.</div><div>&gt;&gt;&gt; =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RESTART =
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D</div><div>&gt;&gt;&gt;&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Traceback (most recent call last):</div><div>&nbsp; File "Untitled", =
line 1</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; from visual import *</div><div>&nbsp; =
File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/visual/__init__.py", line 1</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; from =
.visual_all import *</div><div>&nbsp; File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/visual/visual_all.py", line 1</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; from vis =
import version</div><div>&nbsp; File =
"/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/site-pack=
ages/vis/__init__.py", line 3</div><div>&nbsp; &nbsp; from .cvisual =
import (vector, dot, mag, mag2, norm, cross, =
rotate,</div><div>ImportError: =
dlopen(/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/sit=
e-packages/vis/cvisual.so, 2): no suitable image found. &nbsp;Did =
find:</div><div><span class=3D"Apple-tab-span" style=3D"white-space: =
pre; ">	=
</span>/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/2.7/lib/python2.7/sit=
e-packages/vis/cvisual.so: mach-o, but wrong =
architecture</div></div><div>---------------------------------------------=
-------------------------------------------------------------------------<=
/div><div><br>The program I tried is =
:</div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------------</div><div><div>=
from visual import =
*</div><div>sphere()</div><div>----------------------------</div><div><br>=
</div><div>Also, a VPythom folder with sample programs is NOT created. =
Thus, the "visual" help item on VIDLE'S help menu also =
fails.</div><div><br></div><div>Finally, I also use Enthought's Python =
distribution for scientific computing. Could these interfere with each =
other?</div><div>Can Visual Python be installed within Enthought's =
distribution? I think Enthought uses a Numpy =
1.6x.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards and thanks for all your =
work!</div><div><br></div><div>Adam =
Hausknecht</div><div><br></div><div><span name=3D"x"></span>Professor =
Adam O. Hausknecht<br>Department of Mathematics<br>UMass =
Dartmouth<br>285 Old Westport Road<br>North Dartmouth, MA =
02747<br>Office: Arts and Sciences 394B<br>Email:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br>Phone=
: 508-999-8322<span name=3D"x"></span><br></div><br><hr id=3D"zwchr"><div =
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VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new event =
handling<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;capabilities (Bruce =
Sherwood)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 5. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;handling capabilities (Bruce =
Sherwood)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 6. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;handling capabilities (Bruce =
Sherwood)<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; 7. Re: VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;handling capabilities (Bruce =
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+0900<br>From: Shin-ichiro Tanaka / ????? =
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:stanaka-uy5Ei0ICS76UKefhbswAYO0/[email protected]">stanaka-uy5Ei0ICS76UKefhbswAYO0/[email protected]<=
/a>&gt;<br>Subject: [Visualpython-users] On windows-8 tablet<br>To:<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
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nt-Type: text/plain; charset=3Diso-2022-jp<br><br><br>Hi,<br><br>I have =
been using Vpython on Windows 7 and XP machines, either<br>with =
EPD(enthght python disribution) and Pythonxy distribution.<br><br>It is =
amazing. Then I installed Vpython(Ver 5.74 for win32 on<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>python2.73) on an =
windows-8 tablet (ASUS ME400c, Atom Z2760,<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>2GByte memory). =
However, it does not work. The "Vypthon" window<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br>opens but it hangs =
up.<br><br>Does anyone know how to do with it? I keenly would like to =
show<br>the physical simulation to students on my physics lecture.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br><br>Thanks in =
advance.<br><br>----------------------------------------------<br><br>Shin=
-ichiro Tanaka "?????"<br>Associate professor<br>The institute of =
Scientific and Industrial Research, Osaka =
University<br>TEL:06-6879-8491, =
FAX:06-6879-8494<br>?????????????567-0047 =
??????????<br><br><br><br>------------------------------<br><br>Message: =
2<br>Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2013 11:28:47 -0700<br>From: Bruce Sherwood &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: [Visualpython-users] New contributed program<br>To: vpusers =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:CAFDG03hCmtm+QJ_9WhymJKFm69pVCTYHMM-YAzNO+jH=3DxGowjw@mail.=
gmail.com">CAFDG03hCmtm+QJ_9WhymJKFm69pVCTYHMM-YAzNO+jH=3DxGowjw-JsoAwUIsXov1KXRcyAk9cg@public.gmane.org=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Owen =
Long has contributed an interesting program that displays the =
odd<br>behavior of a book rotating in 3D space, now available in the =
Contributed<br>section of<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://vpython.org">vpython.org</a>.<br><br>Because there are no =
torques acting on the book, the (vector) angular<br>momentum does not =
change, but the (vector) angular velocity does change,<br>and the visual =
effect is that the book tumbles in an unexpected way.<br><br>You can see =
this effect in the real world. Try flipping a book or a tennis<br>racket =
in the air. You'll find that if the object rotates around its =
long<br>axis or the axis perpendicular to the largest side, the rotation =
is stable.<br>If however you flip it around the third axis, no matter =
how carefully you<br>try to flip it exactly around that axis, you'll see =
that the object tumbles.<br><br>Bruce Sherwood<br><br>P.S. Steve =
Spicklemire and I believe that we're very close to the next<br>release =
of the wxPython-based VPython 6. All that remains is =
some<br>documentation and some cleanups of keyboard =
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t</a>&gt;,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;"<a =
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bsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;1360194526.31704.<a =
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4<br>Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:24:42 -0700<br>From: Bruce Sherwood &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and<br>&nbsp;&nbsp=
;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;new event handling =
capabilities<br>To: vpusers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:CAFDG03jfZib4CRw2_-yXZc3K_wvLyq0ii3s=3DNmhq+QGuX7kyYw@mail.=
gmail.com">CAFDG03jfZib4CRw2_-yXZc3K_wvLyq0ii3s=3DNmhq+QGuX7kyYw-JsoAwUIsXov1KXRcyAk9cg@public.gmane.org=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>Now =
available on the download pages at<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://vpython.org">vpython.org</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>is VPython 6.02, =
the<br>product of a collaboration between Steve Spicklemire and me. This =
version<br>is based on the cross-platform library wxPython. It has two =
powerful new<br>features:<br><br>(1) You can put a VPython 3D display in =
a window that also has wxPython<br>buttons, sliders, etc. that have a =
native look and feel on all platforms.<br>See the new example program =
widgets.py. (We haven't experimented with<br>automatic layout mechanisms =
provided by wxPython, which may require some<br>revision of the new =
VPython.)<br><br>(2) In addition to the existing ways to handle mouse =
and keyboard events,<br>there are powerful new "callback" mechanisms for =
handling events. Among<br>much else, this provides a way to catch =
keyboard release events, which some<br>users have wanted for a long =
time.<br><br>Our experience so far is that existing programs will run =
with VPython 6.02,<br>unless there is an animation loop that does not =
contain a rate() statement<br>(which is now obligatory), and if you =
import graph or controls or<br>filedialog you must first import visual =
or vis. We encourage you to try<br>your programs and provide test cases =
that do not run properly even after<br>making these two =
adaptations.<br><br>There is one known bug with old programs, which is =
that materials.rough and<br>materials.marble do not display correctly on =
a Macintosh, and the cause is<br>currently unknown.<br><br>There is one =
known bug with new programs, which is that pull-down menus (a<br>new =
feature made possible thanks to wxPython) do not work on a =
Macintosh.<br>This problem is partly understood, but there isn't yet a =
fix for the<br>problem.<br><br>There is a likely bug on Linux, in that =
wxPython does not currently report<br>window metrics such as the height =
of a menu bar. For that reason, at the<br>moment these metrics are =
hard-coded and are likely to be wrong for some<br>Linux or some window =
manager on some Linux. Please let us know about your<br>experience in =
this regard.<br><br>Bruce Sherwood<br><br>P.S. At the start of every =
semester there is a big spike in VPython<br>installer downloads due to =
the start of classes in which VPython is used.<br>Last month there were =
about 10,000 downloads, and there were considerable<br>charges for =
excess data transfer from the<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://vpython.org">vpython.org</a><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span>web site. For =
that<br>reason, the installers have been moved to<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><a =
href=3D"http://sourceforge.net">sourceforge.net</a>, which =
provides<br>free downloads for open-source projects like =
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5<br>Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 23:29:31 -0700<br>From: Bruce Sherwood &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event handling capabilities<br>To: vpusers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:CAFDG03jhGSs0dd_HDbS+uHhCE+RgdJ353tiqcSSMMvFtHJ-zVg-Rq2MYuBUFGs@public.gmane.org=
ail.com">CAFDG03jhGSs0dd_HDbS+uHhCE+RgdJ353tiqcSSMMvFtHJ-zVg-JsoAwUIsXouhRSP0FMvGiw@public.gmane.org=
m</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>I should =
add that VPython 6.02 works with 64-bit versions of Python on =
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6<br>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:04:39 -0700<br>From: Bruce Sherwood =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event handling capabilities<br>To: vpusers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:CAFDG03g-=3DHOKHqseYFGzOk9AbwEigjqO1qCgHr7uUOHWx1tubw@mail.=
gmail.com">CAFDG03g-=3DHOKHqseYFGzOk9AbwEigjqO1qCgHr7uUOHWx1tubw-JsoAwUIsXov1KXRcyAk9cg@public.gmane.org=
l.com</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>One =
other thing: There isn't a version of VPython 6 for Python 3.x =
because<br>there isn't yet a Python 3.x version of wxPython, on which =
VPython 6 is<br>based. The wxPython developers are actively working on a =
version for Python<br>3.x, but I don't know when it will be =
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7<br>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 23:59:58 -0700<br>From: Bruce Sherwood =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;<br=
>Subject: Re: [Visualpython-users] VPython 6.02 with buttons, =
sliders,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;and new =
event handling capabilities<br>To: vpusers &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:visualpython-users-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org">visualpython-user=
[email protected]</a>&gt;<br>Message-ID:<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=
&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:CAFDG03hNANMXcVGhodPug4F9VnUUMOsDAosY9DQngSu8JW21Hw-Rq2MYuBUFGs@public.gmane.org=
ail.com">CAFDG03hNANMXcVGhodPug4F9VnUUMOsDAosY9DQngSu8JW21Hw-JsoAwUIsXouhRSP0FMvGiw@public.gmane.org=
m</a>&gt;<br>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"utf-8"<br><br>My =
mistake. I had misunderstood the status of the "Phoenix" project, =
a<br>rewrite of wxPython that can be used with Python 3. I just now =
tried using<br>the Phoenix version, and after some very minor changes =
just about<br>everything but labels worked (and that's probably easy to =
fix).<br><br>Bruce Sherwood<br><br>On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 8:04 PM, =
Bruce Sherwood &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;wro=
te:<br><br>&gt; One other thing: There isn't a version of VPython 6 for =
Python 3.x because<br>&gt; there isn't yet a Python 3.x version of =
wxPython, on which VPython 6 is<br>&gt; based. The wxPython developers =
are actively working on a version for Python<br>&gt; 3.x, but I don't =
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