Re: Standard Python GUI builder?

Hi, Dietmar,

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 7:40 AM, Dietmar Schwertberger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Every now and then on comp.lang.python there's a discussion about GUI
> builders.
> E.g. currently "Everything good about Python except GUI IDE?"
>
> Well, I'm using wxPython a lot and PyQt sometimes (for my smartphone
> running Sailfish OS).
>
>  From time to time I'm testing the available GUI builders like Qt
> Designer, wxGlade and wxFormBuilder. My motivation is to find a tool
> which finally would allow me to recommend Python to my colleagues.
>
> As of now, the conclusion is always that there's no tool that I would
> recommend for a Python beginner to start GUI programming with.
>
> The reference is always Visual BASIC 6. You could teach anyone with a
> some BASIC knowledge within a few minutes how to implement a simple GUI
> with some text inputs and buttons.
>
> E.g. Qt Designer is OK to use, but to use the created GUI actually from
> Python, it's quite a mess requiring as much knowledge as if you code the
> GUI manually.
>
>
> On the other hand, wxGlade is not too far away from being the tool of
> choice.
>
> So the question is whether the wxGlade developers would be interested in
> developing wxGlade into the "Standard Python GUI builder"?
>
> My suggestions would be:
>   - drop the requirement that each frame or panel has to have a sizer.
> wxPython does not require this and these sizers are absolutely
> counter-intuitive. E.g. a frame with a notebook does not need a sizer.

Yes, it does.
Because depending on the different options, you notebook might be
positioned and sized differently.

>   - structure the tool palette; have a look at Qt Designer or
> wxFormBuilder for inspiration
>   - add drag and drop, cut, copy and paste to the tree view; if the GUI
> has a structure, it should be possible to edit the structure

I would argue that it is unnecessary. It is GUI RAD tool and as such you
drop everything on the GUI. However it would be nice to have Cut/Copy/Paste
from the actual GUI being designed.

>   - allow people to add code to event handlers etc. in place
>   - think about switching to a single-frame user interface with
> integrated preview

Why?
If it can be integrated so that all those windows will float on top
of main IDE - yes, otherwise - no.

>
> Also, be prepared to support wxPython Phoenix and Python 3.x.

That's would be nice.

Thank you.

>
> Regards,
>
> Dietmar
>
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