Re: Standard Python GUI builder?

Hi,

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Dietmar Schwertberger
<[email protected]> wrote:
> On 28.02.2016 16:05, Igor Korot wrote:
>> - drop the requirement that each frame or panel has to have a sizer.
>>> wxPython does not require this and these sizers are absolutely
>>> counter-intuitive. E.g. a frame with a notebook does not need a sizer.
>> Yes, it does.
>> Because depending on the different options, you notebook might be
>> positioned and sized differently.
> Well, I can't think of a real-world example for this.
> When the notebook is not full page, then usually splitters are used, not
> sizers.
> Centering the structure around a use case that happens once a year is
> probably not a good idea.

Actually, no.
It is possible to have a notebook and some controls underneath in one
window.
Besides, how do you define whether the notebook will be expanded or
set as it default size.
Remember you can set some arbitrary size to the frame, not just use
default one.

>
>>>    - structure the tool palette; have a look at Qt Designer or
>>> wxFormBuilder for inspiration
>>>    - add drag and drop, cut, copy and paste to the tree view; if the GUI
>>> has a structure, it should be possible to edit the structure
>> I would argue that it is unnecessary. It is GUI RAD tool and as such you
>> drop everything on the GUI. However it would be nice to have Cut/Copy/Paste
>> from the actual GUI being designed.
> The lack of a structural edit tool makes it very hard to modify anything
> which is in sizers.

You can't work around sizers. It is an API designed specifically to eliminate
the difference between platforms.
So, when you are working in the cross-platform environment you need some way
to define a size/placement of the control(s) independently of
different fonts, screen
sizes, etc. That's why wxGlade uses sizers. Java uses something else.
Qt - something
else.

> Placing things on the GUI is OK for pixel-placement. But wxGlade
> supports only sizers, so there's a contradiction here....
> Of course, for many users and simple GUIs it would be nice to have a
> pixel-placement mode.

Even for the simple GUI try to design the dialog inside MSVC and port it to
Linux or Mac.
It will look different (and sometimes completely wrong).

Thank you.

>
> Regards,
>
> Dietmar
>
>
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