Re: [TYPES] Types in distributed systems
Antonio Ravara <[email protected]>
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[ The Types Forum, http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] Behavioural types (of which session types are an instance) handle the scenario described in several ways, providing guarantees ranging from protocol compatibility to progress. An European project (BETTY - www.behavioural-types.eu) is dedicated to the topic, and produced recently state-of-the-art reports covering the (huge!) bibliography on the subject. You can find them at http://www.behavioural-types.eu/publications. Hope this helps. antonio On 29/08/14 03:24, "Ionuț G. Stan" wrote: > [ The Types Forum, > http://lists.seas.upenn.edu/mailman/listinfo/types-list ] > > Hello, > > First, let me acknowledge upfront that I'm a complete dilettante when it > comes to type theory (I'm still working through the first chapters of > TaPL). That means that what I'm about to ask will be either stupid or > extremely inexact. Nevertheless, I'm curious. > > Now, onto my question... > > The TL;DR version is: how does one specify types in a distributed > programming model, like actors? And how much can we trust these types? > > I was debating today, on Twitter [1], how to type the sets of messages > two actors can exchange; a producer (P) and a consumer (C). > > Let's say that the possible set of messages produced by P is M. We would > like, by means of a type system, to know that C can handle: 1) just > messages of type M and 2) all possible messages of type M. > > M could be represented by a sum type. Let's consider this particular one: > > M1 = A | B | C > > In a closed world this makes complete sense (to me, at least) and it's > easy to verify statically. But in an open world setting, like a > distributed system, where P and C are on different machines that may be > upgraded separately, things look harder to me. You may guarantee > statically that the two properties are met, but at runtime there may > appear race conditions that violate the second property. > > For example, we deploy P1 and C1, both agreeing on M1. Next, we add a > new variant to M1: > > M2 = A | B | C | D > > P1 and C1 are updated accordingly and we get P2 and C2, which we try to > deploy, but a race condition appears and P2 send message D to C1. > Obviously, C1 does not understand it. Even though the type system told > us that C1 can handle all variants of M, it can't actually. > > A similar scenario appears when removing one of the variants of M1. > > Is there any typing approach to this kind of problem? > > It looks to me that types would have to include a version as well and > all runtime communication between different versions should be > prohibited by having versioned communication channels. > > Does anyone have any insights or pointers to articles, papers or books > that discuss this sort of problem? > > Thank you for reading this! > > > [1]: https://twitter.com/shajra/status/504568858967953408 >