Re: Removing été from French stop words

Philippe Ouellet <[email protected]> Wed, 15 Apr 2020 20:14:55 -0400
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Could you give me the link to the file in the repo? I have no idea where =
that is.

I only did notice =C3=A9t=C3=A9, because one of our product name =
contains that word, but you are right about aura and avions.=20

Do we need to remove avions from the stop word, if it get changed to its =
singular form during analysis?

I am having second thought: removing =C3=A9t=C3=A9 could have a great =
impact on the search result, someone searching for =E2=80=9Csummer=E2=80=9D=
 would result in finding all results containing the past tense form of =
=E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D: the impact is huge.

Is there a way to make =E2=80=9Ca =C3=A9t=C3=A9=E2=80=9D the stop word =
instead?

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Philippe Ouellet
Web Developer
https://camellia-sinensis.com

> On Apr 15, 2020, at 20:05, Olly Betts <[email protected]> wrote:
>=20
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:44:35PM -0400, Philippe Ouellet wrote:
>> I propose to remove =E2=80=9C=C3=A9t=C3=A9=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9C=C3=A9=
t=C3=A9s=E2=80=9D from the French stop words. It is
>> true that they are a form for the verb =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D, but =
it also mean
>> =E2=80=9Csummer=E2=80=9D, which should not be a stop word.
>=20
> Sounds good to me.  It looks like there are other entries with the =
same
> problem - e.g.  "aura" and "avions" are both also nouns.
>=20
> But my French is rudimentary at best.  Could you review the whole list
> and open a PR against the snowball-website repo with your proposed
> changes?
>=20
> I'd suggest we comment out such entries ("|" is the comment character
> here) with a note as to why they are omitted.  That should help avoid
> future requests to add the apparently missing entries.
>=20
> Cheers,
>    Olly


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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Could=
 you give me the link to the file in the repo? I have no idea where that =
is.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I only did =
notice =C3=A9t=C3=A9, because one of our product name contains that =
word, but you are right about aura and avions.&nbsp;</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Do we need to remove =
avions from the stop word, if it get changed to its singular form during =
analysis?</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I am =
having second thought: removing =C3=A9t=C3=A9 could have a great impact =
on the search result, someone searching for =E2=80=9Csummer=E2=80=9D =
would result in finding all results containing the past tense form of =
=E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D: the impact is huge.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Is there a way to make =E2=80=9Ca =
=C3=A9t=C3=A9=E2=80=9D the stop word instead?</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""><div class=3D"">
<div dir=3D"auto" style=3D"caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, =
0); letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; =
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; =
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; word-wrap: =
break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D""><div>--<br class=3D"">Philippe Ouellet<br class=3D"">Web =
Developer</div><div><a href=3D"https://camellia-sinensis.com" =
class=3D"">https://camellia-sinensis.com</a></div></div>

</div>

<div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Apr 15, 2020, at 20:05, Olly Betts &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" class=3D"">[email protected]</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Wed, Apr 15, 2020 at 05:44:35PM -0400, Philippe Ouellet =
wrote:<br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D"">I propose to =
remove =E2=80=9C=C3=A9t=C3=A9=E2=80=9D and =E2=80=9C=C3=A9t=C3=A9s=E2=80=9D=
 from the French stop words. It is<br class=3D"">true that they are a =
form for the verb =E2=80=9Cto be=E2=80=9D, but it also mean<br =
class=3D"">=E2=80=9Csummer=E2=80=9D, which should not be a stop word.<br =
class=3D""></blockquote><br class=3D"">Sounds good to me. &nbsp;It looks =
like there are other entries with the same<br class=3D"">problem - e.g. =
&nbsp;"aura" and "avions" are both also nouns.<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">But my French is rudimentary at best. &nbsp;Could you review =
the whole list<br class=3D"">and open a PR against the snowball-website =
repo with your proposed<br class=3D"">changes?<br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">I'd suggest we comment out such entries ("|" is the comment =
character<br class=3D"">here) with a note as to why they are omitted. =
&nbsp;That should help avoid<br class=3D"">future requests to add the =
apparently missing entries.<br class=3D""><br class=3D"">Cheers,<br =
class=3D""> &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Olly<br =
class=3D""></div></div></blockquote></div><br =
class=3D""></div></body></html>=

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