Re: Can Zeek be installed as in-line IPS?

Somedays I wish...

As I sit here reviewing the deployment and Change Management notes for a
ASA/FirePower, two SourceFire 7120's, two 8250's, and two VM FirePowers.

Orgs are still trying to get ROI on some of this stuff.  It's not AI/ML or
Blockchain, but it's still running.

On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 2:39 PM Edgmand, Craig <[email protected]>
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> Didn’t IDS die circa 2005?   J
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> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Richard
> Bejtlich
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> *To:* Patrick Kelley <[email protected]>
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> *Subject:* Re: [Zeek] Can Zeek be installed as in-line IPS?
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> The PCI requirement is for IDS or IPS, which is unfortunate because they
> are totally different. I'm surprised IPS is even a market segment anymore.
> At this point it's really just a firewall feature. There's so much more
> that can be done with a passive observation platform like Zeek, when you
> don't have to worry about making line-speed judgements.
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> Sincerely,
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> Richard
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> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:50 PM Patrick Kelley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
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> Yes.  Many.
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> PCI-DSS 11.4 comes up quite often. Whether we have consensus on the
> validity and utility of an IPS or not, it comes up in every single PCI
> audit.
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> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:40 PM Richard Bejtlich <[email protected]>
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> Yes, as Seth said, I said IPS. Is anyone really deploying IPS now? I only
> see Palo Alto firewalls, etc.
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> Sincerely,
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> Richard
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> On Mon, Mar 18, 2019 at 1:02 PM Seth Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On 18 Mar 2019, at 11:30, Patrick Kelley wrote:
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> > I still see the same issues we had on networks 10 years ago. It is
> > reduced, due to HTTPS and some SMTP, sure.  Dead... not really.
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> To be fair, he did say IPS.  In my opinion IPS has always been in a
> weird spot where the definition isn't terribly clear (block a single
> packet in-flight?  block a connection after a determination is made?
> ...etc).
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> I think everyone here will agree that the visibility provided by Zeek is
> useful even on modern networks and that tail of completely unencrypted
> traffic is awfully long. :)
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>    .Seth
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> Richard Bejtlich
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> Richard Bejtlich
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yourself and not as a point of potential failure.*

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