rate values in FireQOS with overhead or without?

Phineas Gage <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.firewalls.firehol.user
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When entering rates for a class in FireQOS, should they be with packet overheads or without?

When a VOIP call is active in my environment (codec unknown) I see a rate of 66 show up in the VOIP class, pretty consistently. What I’m trying to figure out is if this is the rate I should have configured in my fireqos.conf (maybe with some padding), or if it should be something smaller, without overhead.
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