Re: Question on rate limiting on nftables

On Mon, 08 Jun 2026 12:30:55 +0100
"Andre Rodier" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> I am testing nftables SSH connections attempts limit, and I read about "meters"
> 
> I would like to know the difference between these two methods of new connections limiting, and to ensure the first one is correct.
> 
> The first option:
> 
> ~~~
> table inet filter {
>   [...]
>   meta nfproto ipv4 tcp dport ssh ct state new,untracked \
>   limit rate over 10/second \
>   counter add @banned_ipv4 { ip saddr . ssh } \
>   comment "Ban SSH bots"
> }
> ~~~
> 
> And the second option:
> 
> ~~~
> table inet filter {
>   [...]
>   meta nfproto ipv4 tcp dport ssh ct state new,untracked \
>   meter ssh4 { ip saddr limit rate over 10/second } \
>   add @banned_ipv4 { ip saddr . ssh }
> }
> ~~~
> 
> Is there any advantage using the second method ?
> 
> Thanks for your insights
> 

The first method, as already explained, effectively drops packets when too many arrive too quickly from all sources. The second tracks individual IPs.

In my F/W, attempts from internet to access ports that are *not* open/forwarded are logged as 'badtraffic' and dropped. Attempts, again from internet, to access open/forwarded ports too quickly (N SYNs in M seconds) are logged as 'badtraffic' and dropped. The limiter looks at all open/forwarded ports.

I also have a script that runs periodically; it gathers the IPs from the 'badtraffic' log entries (and IPs from other sources) and adds them to an IP set if they are not already covered there by a /16 or /24 set and not already present in the IP set. Periodically blocking them allows the rate-limited IPs to expire from the rate limiter. They stay blocked until they fall out of the logs.

This and the other measures I've taken have reduced bandit* traffic from well over 100kbit/s to around 3kbit/s on average. They've reduced guests on my forum from over 400 (up to 5000) to less than 15. Alas, there is one drawback to my methods: I don't know how many false positives they trigger; my limits are probably a little too tight. The rate limiter has 2048 entries. At present, the sets contain 9000 blocked nets and 535k blocked IPs. That's about 1/8000 of the internet, so my methods mightn't be too aggressive.

Neal


* - Yes, I call all of those miscreants 'bandits', for that is what they are.