Re: PCI DSS & Firewalls

"Potter, Albert (Al)" <[email protected]>
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Chris hits the nail on the head. The DSS is about helping the clewless make measureable progress in a better direction and giving management (C and board level) the motivation and justificatio to spen money on security and to induce their staffs to get moving. 

Is it perfect?  No, but it is regularly revised (the DSS) and has a mechanism to get better. 


AL
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Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] PCI DSS & Firewalls


> Paul D. Robertson <[email protected]>,Wednesday, April 1, 2009 9:09:40 PM

> Is it just me, or do the PCI DSS "standards" for firewalls look like 

> someone played "I have a CISSP" buzzword bingo?


Nope, not just you. ;~)

The DSS (and regulatory tools in total) are not bits-und-bytes technical artifacts, they are human engineering technical artifacts.  The idea being to find a way to move people in a desired direction an achievable distance.  The funcational DNA in PCI is not what gadgets to use how, it's "if it's done wrong there are legal ramifications at the executive level".

One of our folks did PCI for Walmart, and when the CEO sent out a note saying (sic): "Listen to this guy or you're fired" it proved that PCI worked.  It reduced the prospect of spending in the future the millions of man-hours we have spent in the past arguing with people that maybe they should at least consider changing default passwords.

Now, is PCI enough (or complete)?  Apparently not (go ask Heartland).  But if we can get people doing the things in the DSS for starters, at least they'll be evolved beyond gills and flippers when we get there to talk about actual security.

-chris


      
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