Re: State of security technology for the enterprise

"Paul D. Robertson" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.firewalls.wizards
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On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Marcus J. Ranum wrote:

> ...And nobody has ever done an adequate job of explaining what is
> stateful about SPI or particularly "deep" about DPI.   As one of those

Oh, the stateful part was explained pretty well- as were the state tables, 
it was the "inspection" part that was all over the map in SPI just like 
in DPI...  

> obnoxious guys who always did everything at Layer 7, it seems more
> like an argument about who's the tallest kid in the shallow end of
> the pool.

I get to have a proxy conversation with a bank tomorrow, because *all* 
their literature for their ACH service requires "unrestricted Internet 
access" with (at least according to the manuals, no place to even put a 
proxy for the HTTS or FTP methods.)  *sigh*

Paul
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