Re: Firewall best practices

Too late:
http://files.cloudprivacy.net/ssl-mitm.pdf

And these devices are already in deployment...now, imagine one of these with a wildcard certificate running at a coffee house, or at the aggregation point within a provider's CO POP...

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Morrison
Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Firewall best practices

My understanding of https (and other PKI-based encryption) is that
only the holder of the private key can decrypt the data encrypted with
the other (public) key in the pair. My view is that the firewall can
only decrypt and inspect https traffic if it is acting as the server
to the external client. It can't intercept and decrypt https traffic
destined for another device - the real server. If it did https would
be worthless. Any hacker could buy such a firewall to sniff and
decrypt all https traffic.

On 23 April 2010 20:18,  <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2010, Martin Barry wrote:
>
>> $quoted_author = "Marcus J. Ranum" ;
>>>
>>> That's why firewalls need to go back to doing what they
>>> originally did, and parsing/analyzying the traffic that
>>> flows through them, rather than "stateful packet
>>> inspection" (which, as far as I can tell, means that
>>> there's a state-table entry saying "I saw SYN!")
>>
>> Marcus, are you referring to DPI or proxies or both or something else
>> entirely?
>>
>>
>>> If the firewall doesn't understand the data it's passing,
>>> it's not a firewall, it's a hub.
>>
>> If an application emulates HTTPS traffic and is proxy aware, how do you
>> tell
>> the difference?
>
> There are firewalls on the market that can decrypt HTTPS traffic (and I
> believe be configured to block any traffic that they can't decrypt)
>
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