Re: P2V - Live Forensics

Paul Schmehl <[email protected]> Mon, 28 Feb 2011 10:59:10 -0600
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.forensics
Message-ID <[email protected]>
--On February 22, 2011 10:18:52 AM +0000 Dave Howe 
<[email protected]> wrote:

> On 15/02/2011 15:13, [email protected] wrote:
>> Ladies, Gentlemen, and otherwise:
>>
>> I have a situation whereby I need to obtain an image of an individual's
>> laptop suitable for potential prosecution in a US court; however, I only
>> have a limited window in which to grab the image, and was looking for
>> alternatives in order to not "spook" the poor guy or his co-workers who
>> would no doubt tell him about me, as I go into his office and randomly
>> image his drive!
>
> Here's one I have done in the past.
> Use psexec, mapped drives, whatever to gain access to the machine while
> running. rename ntldr to something else - next time the machine shuts
> down, it won't come up again.
>
> User screams, brings in machine for maint
>

Very clever, but it will cause you problems in court.  You altered the 
drive before you removed it.  Can you prove you didn't alter anything else? 
If not, your image isn't forensically sound and won't hold up in court.

To obtain a forensically sound image, you need to capture the drive, either 
physically or over the network, without making any changes to it.  You also 
need to be able to prove that the image is identical to the drive you 
captured, which means the md5 sum checks out and the image needs to be 
read-only

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Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
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