Re: Sessions Resource Exhaustion

"Ravi Chunduru" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.ids
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Rahul,

Is it not common to have IPsec VPN Server in typical network deployments?

Regards
Ravi

On 10/15/07, Rahul K <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 10/13/07, Ravi Chunduru <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 10/12/07, H D Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > If you can fill the state table using just SYN packets (without doing a
> > > full session setup), then the device in question is just crap :-)
> >
> > i could not exhaust state tables with TCP.  I sent UDP:500 traffic
> > with different source ports to fill up the state table. It makes me
> > wonder whether may stateful devices are vulnerable to these kinds of
> > attacks.
>
> UDP may be stateless, but the moment an IPS receives an UDP packet
> with some content it would have to initialize and maintain a session
> for that packet because the signature matching and other checks have
> to kick in. So it is not surprising that you could fill up the state
> table with UDP:500 traffic. It is easier to spoof UDP packets than
> complete the 3-way TCP handshake, so you may have been able to fill up
> the table faster too.
>
> However in your deployment scenario, would you really be allowing
> incoming UDP traffic or would your firewall be dropping them before it
> is seen by the IPS?
>
> Rahul
>

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