Re: Asymmetric traffic/topology
Jeremy Bennett <[email protected]>
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First there are three types of asymmetry in a network that can cause problems for some times of IPS devices. 1. Connection-level asymmetry: This is the case where a given TCP connection (up and down stream) is on a single network path but a separate, identical connection may follow a different path. This is very common and can cause problems for behavioral systems. 2. Flow-level asymmetry: This is the case where the upstream and downstream flows in a TCP connection may follow different paths. This can cause problems for behavioral systems and stateful packet- inspection. 3. Packet-level asymmetry: This is the case packets within a flow may be following different routes in a network. This can cause problems for any IPS except for the most basic packet-filter. Now in my experience, #1 is very common in medium to large enterprises that have built for scalability and redundancy. #2 is common in load-balanced server farms. #3 is not extremely common but does appear in some instances of a hot-hot redundancy deployment. -J On Nov 7, 2007, at 4:42 PM, snort user wrote: > Greetings. > > I am sure that most of you know about the asymmetric traffic/topology > problem in relevance to > IDS/IPS systems. > ( By Asymmetric traffic/topology, I mean the case where client to > server packets traverse a different path > in your network compared to server to client packets. Hence the > IDS/IPS see only one side of the conversation) > > I am trying to find out how wide this problem really is? > Is it commonly seen in large / enterprise networks ? > > Any input is welcome. > > Thanks > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > Test Your IDS > > Is your IDS deployed correctly? > Find out quickly and easily by testing it > with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. > Go to http://www.coresecurity.com/index.php5? > module=Form&action=impact&campaign=intro_sfw > to learn more. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.coresecurity.com/index.php5?module=Form&action=impact&campaign=intro_sfw to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------