Re: Obfuscated web pages

Signature-based ID/PS have little hope of catching these. Parsing HTTP
responses (without javascript) is first of all pretty expensive,
especially given chunked/transfer/content/mime encodings. On top of
that parsing javascript is pretty much going to make the ID/PS
performance go to hell.

Could be wrong, but I highly doubt that anyone is actually doing a
full HTML/Javascript parsing to determine that the impact is. You will
need to embed a full DOM parser and a Javascript engine (like spider
monkey) to make sense of what the code is trying to do. They you need
to take into account IE/Firefox/Opera/Safari/etc idiosyncrasies.
*sigh*

The network would be the wrong place to try and defend against these, IMHO.

K.

On Thu, Feb 14, 2008 at 10:44 AM, Gary Flynn <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  Are any current network based IDS/P systems able to unwind
>  obfuscated web script to examine the final javascript product?
>  It would seem they would have to have a javascript engine to
>  do so and issues with reassembly, iterations, and delays
>  would preclude them from doing it inline.
>
>  Without this capability, it would seem that network based
>  IDS/IPS is destined to digress to AV style malware
>  signatures for malicious web server issues and that the only
>  reliable place to do IDS/P would be on the host.
>
>  We've been seeing more and more obfuscated web script and
>  according to a recently released IBM report, the majority
>  of exploits are taking this path.
>
>  http://www.iss.net/x-force_report_images/2008/index.html
>
>  Thoughts?
>
>  --
>  Gary Flynn
>  Security Engineer
>  James Madison University
>  www.jmu.edu/computing/security
>

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