Re: Malicous Domains and IDS/IPS signatures

"Sanjay R" <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.ids
Message-ID <[email protected]>
hi Mayanak

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Bhatnagar, Mayank
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Often we find while analyzing malwares or binaries, some malicious
> domains become inactive after some period of time.
>
> They may be active during initial period of activity, malwares when
> executed connecting to these domains, these domains then sending
> malicious files....binaries etc.....but just as soon as this information
> is being known or the behavior has been captured by IDS/IPS signatures
> blocking this domain, soon the domain itself become inactive.
>
> What do you feel should be the responsibility of IDS/IPS solution
> providers? I feel keeping track of such domains (live or down) in an
> automated manner may be one possibility, keeping a signature for some
> time as a measure of protection another. Also maintaining blacklists of
> these domains may be helpful.
this is how a blacklist is maintained and it is being done already. I
dont know about the views of IPS/IDS vendors on maintaining a list as
its more a marketing funda with added (additional) feature (along with
full featured IPS/IDS). as far as a pure IPS/NIDS is concerned, its
role is to prevent/detect any such malicious file. Its not an option
for misused based IPS/NIDS, but a must have feature to keep
signatures.
another thing that i want to mention (keeping products/marketing a
side), there is a diffence between IPS and ACLS of a (proxy) firewall.
the later keeps a static ACL (e.g. block some IP or domain), whereas
former is dynamic and blocks some IP/domain only when it detects
something malicious from that. so blocking a domain statically (or
permanently) is not, as such, a function of IPS. however, it can be
done by maintaining a blacklist of URLs
>
> How should one handle such cases? Any ideas?
>
> Thanks & Regards,
> Mayank
>
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