Re: Disassembling botnets

Felikz <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.security.incidents
Message-ID <[email protected]>
If you are, or the attack is coming from or via the UK, then the NHTCU 
would be a place to start.

http://www.nhtcu.org/



P.B. Wagenaar wrote:

>Hi Commander Z!
>
>Well it isn't your job to disable the botnet and close down irc servers. All
>you can do is inform the ISP and report this all to the police. You are
>right if you say that all this won't do you any good.
>
>If you want to see some 'action', you should start a civil case against the
>ISP hosting the IRC network. It might sound wrong, but this will wake the
>ISP up and they will take the matter very seriously. Ofcourse you don't want
>to make the ISP pay for what some hacker did, but this might make them go
>after the hacker behind the botnet.
>
>Send them a bill for your damages and wait for their response.
>
>Philip Wagenaar
> 
>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>Van: Z [mailto:[email protected]] 
>Verzonden: woensdag 6 april 2005 2:17
>Aan: [email protected]
>Onderwerp: Disassembling botnets
>
>Hello all,
>As a recent victim of a sustained DDoS attack I decided to investigate a
>little further into the attack source. One of the compromised machines that
>was attacking was serving files on a modified FTP server sitting on a random
>port.
>
>I downloaded the file, a packed/crypted .exe file (NAV didn't find anything)
>that is obviously a DDoS agent.
>Running in a simulated environment, I found the DNS name of the IRC server
>it connects to, which at present resolves to an obviously compromised
>machine on a residential ISP. I joined the IRC server using techniques
>described in http://www.honeynet.org/papers/bots/ and found to my dismay
>around 2,000 other compromised users on an obvious botnet IRC server.
>
>Now, what are my next steps? Obviously if I complain to the ISP hosting the
>IRC server they will just update the DNS name and move the operation
>elsewhere.
>The domain appears to use managed DNS hosting (ie no 3rd party nameservers
>as best as I can tell), so would the registrar even consider taking it down
>based on one report of a single A record pointing to a DDoS net? I really
>want to have those responsible brought to justice, but based on my
>complaints to previous ISPs of the largest attackers on the DDoS net, I'm
>afraid all I'll get is a canned "We have informed the customer" or similar
>response. It seems I'll only get one chance at this before they take off to
>another box. I'd really like to get some kind of law enforcement involved,
>but don't know where to start:
>Me and my server are in different countries and this essentially a personal
>attack on me - no businesses are involved.
>
>Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com 
>
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