Re: SSH bruteforce on its way...

Justin wrote:
> Jouser,
> 
> Nah, there were some exploits a while back that took advanteage in
> some timing flaws in the SSHd that let attackers determin valid
> usernames.
Would you please provide some supporting references.  I can not find any
evidence of existing timing attacks against openssh.  In fact Openssh
goes to some trouble to defeat such attacks.

While on this thread, one effective counter measure against brute force
password attacks is to use decent passwords which everyone should be
doing anyway.  We have lost about 3 systems here to ssh brute force
attacks and in all cases the systems were in serious breach of our
policies (which are not particularly draconian).

In one case I did feel a bit sorry for the victims, they had installed a
third party package that created an account with an insecure password
and they never noticed.  A good case for simple monitoring script like
the one that is run nightly on OBSD system that warns you about changes
in critical files.

Russell.

> 
> peace,
> --Justin
> 
> On 21 Oct 2005 18:05:27 -0000, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>I didn't think it was possible to determine valid usernames by themselves?  You either have a valid username AND password or not.
>>